I don’t really like glocks, got my eyes on a Sig P239 Enhanced Elite 9mm, but also kinda like the Berettas for not being a burgerland company, any other brands I should be looking at, whats the least chuddiest company, I looked at the HK site and my god, they have American flags everywhere and MAGA sales.
ETA: Im in ‘Commiefornia’ so any gun suggestions should be able to be sold here.
To piggyback, if you were talking to a comrade who lives in a mid-sized midwestern city and has been thinking about getting a gun on and off for years, what would you say would be an affordable ‘generalist’ option that would be good to have if things went sideways? I have a toddler so I am very worried about safety, and have generally given up the thought on the grounds that, at the point where I have to defend against intruders I’m probably already fucked, even if being able to coordinate with other workers and perhaps hunt in an emergency are valuable capabilities.
For home defense - Pepper spray
For community defense - AR-15
for hunting - pretty much any cheap bolt action rifle with a half-decent scope on it.
You’ve got three different use cases that require different kinds of guns.
I thought people hunt with AR-15 because it’s such a common platform?
Why do you suggest a bolt-action instead?
Anybody who hunts with an ar-15 should be immediatly ignored.
It’s the perfect gun if you want to trade the ability to take a well placed clean shot for the ability to take 6 shots that will ruin the meat around where it hits.
Bolt guns are really cheap. That’s mostly it. You can hunt with an AR just fine. You choice of optics and accessories will probably be different. And a bolt-action rifle in a larger or spicier caliber than 5.56 is usually less expensive than getting a large caliber AR. You don’t need a larger caliber for hunting, 5.56 works, but .308 or one of the countless other hunting rounds, afaik, is more likely to get a clean kill on the animal.
.308 is a good game cartridge for elk, if you’re shooting whitetail sized deer something around a .250 to 30-30 range is going to waste a lot less meat.