As someone who attends music events in New York frequently, the primary concern the security guards care about is that you’re not bringing a gun into the venue. Secondary concern being hard drugs, depending on the venue and act. Msg definitely does not want drugs. Thinking that the underpaid and overworked security staff has a political agenda is absurd when they already have to deal with your bridge and tunnel antics.
Although MSG is owned by that guy who used facial recognition cameras to ban one of the lawyers suing him from attending an event there. Very funny little dystopian anecdote.
Undoubtedly. Still profiling and protecting capital using force. I was only trying to add some context to the situation and point out the absurdity that these people would have a political agenda in the form of being a Russian troll or that constitutes a hate crime. These redditors need to touch grass and speak to someone offline.
Oh yeah you’re absolutely right that the average cop (Of any variety) isn’t going to give a shit about your Ukraine flag. And of the many hate crimes that security guys and cops do on a daily basis, this wouldn’t rank even if they had been targeted for their flag.
Of course they do. But I promise you that unarmed security at a mass gathering event like this will not give a shit about 90% of the things going on otherwise they’ll bring K9s to sniff out your drugs. There’s simply too much going on to single people like this. At worst they’ll sexually assault you under the guise of full body check.
Unless you’re at the Super Bowl in which case the cops will have a sniper trained at your forehead at all times.
Many of them do have serious brainworms, but so do plenty of other workers. Security is not cops lol, that’s a serious insult we should not just throw around at anybody. Cops have real power over people and every single one of them has agreed to use that power, violently, to oppress workers. 90% of security does literally nothing and most of the other 10% still say “if the boss tells me to do violence against someone i will say no because I don’t get paid enough for that”
That’s a very white comment. Security of various stripes exist on a spectrum of course, but denying their propensity to play pseudo cop and to engage in enforcement of racist and class based oppression is ignorant.
Yeah man, the people who follow poc around in shops or keep them out of places of business aren’t part of a racist culture and pointing that out is the same as calling a barista a landlord. You sure are making a point.
A starbucks barista is expected to gatekeep who’s allowed in their place of business too. Basically everyone in retail is working security as part of their job. They’re all cops, right?
A security guard gets a special uniform, sometimes a badge, the authority to use force, and is the first point of contact in any emergency.
A barista is expected to tell a homeless guy he can’t use the bathroom without buying something then calling the cops when he pisses on the floor. Most jobs involving “reporting” and “gatekeeping” is this.
This is the important part, and no they fucking don’t. Cops have the monopoly on violence. Security guards are not cops and do not have any special authority to use force that anyone else doesn’t. The idea of a security guard arresting someone is made up movie bullshit
The guards at my supermarket have a Glock and 2 magazines lol. They stand in the front of the store so I don’t think they’re following people around or care about lost prevention. They appeared after some gang shootings and robberies happened nearby. Most private guards in my downtown are also armed with pistols unless they’re new in which case they have tasers or pepper spray.
But I’m not saying they’re arresting you or detaining you - you can only volunteer to be detained. But they do have the authority to use force because they always do. I haven’t seen a single guard who wasn’t hostile and checking people or trying some Paul Blart shit unless they’re completely unarmed or very old, in which case they’re just following people and whispering to some clerk about a guy potentially stealing a sausage.
Putin’s KGB runs security at MSG. Putin personally called MSG security himself and demanded the couple not be let in after seeing them on the live security footage with a Ukrainian flag.
Hahahahahahahahahahahaha
As someone who attends music events in New York frequently, the primary concern the security guards care about is that you’re not bringing a gun into the venue. Secondary concern being hard drugs, depending on the venue and act. Msg definitely does not want drugs. Thinking that the underpaid and overworked security staff has a political agenda is absurd when they already have to deal with your bridge and tunnel antics.
Although MSG is owned by that guy who used facial recognition cameras to ban one of the lawyers suing him from attending an event there. Very funny little dystopian anecdote.
Forgot about that little nugget
Security staff are a subtype of cop. A lesser cop. But they have the brain worms
Undoubtedly. Still profiling and protecting capital using force. I was only trying to add some context to the situation and point out the absurdity that these people would have a political agenda in the form of being a Russian troll or that constitutes a hate crime. These redditors need to touch grass and speak to someone offline.
Oh yeah you’re absolutely right that the average cop (Of any variety) isn’t going to give a shit about your Ukraine flag. And of the many hate crimes that security guys and cops do on a daily basis, this wouldn’t rank even if they had been targeted for their flag.
Of course they do. But I promise you that unarmed security at a mass gathering event like this will not give a shit about 90% of the things going on otherwise they’ll bring K9s to sniff out your drugs. There’s simply too much going on to single people like this. At worst they’ll sexually assault you under the guise of full body check.
Unless you’re at the Super Bowl in which case the cops will have a sniper trained at your forehead at all times.
Many of them do have serious brainworms, but so do plenty of other workers. Security is not cops lol, that’s a serious insult we should not just throw around at anybody. Cops have real power over people and every single one of them has agreed to use that power, violently, to oppress workers. 90% of security does literally nothing and most of the other 10% still say “if the boss tells me to do violence against someone i will say no because I don’t get paid enough for that”
That’s a very white comment. Security of various stripes exist on a spectrum of course, but denying their propensity to play pseudo cop and to engage in enforcement of racist and class based oppression is ignorant.
Anyone can play pseudo cop, nothing about the job of security requires that. Unlike, you know, being a cop.
But yeah fuck it whatever, starbucks baristas are landlords too. Just say whatever. Words don’t mean anything.
Yeah man, the people who follow poc around in shops or keep them out of places of business aren’t part of a racist culture and pointing that out is the same as calling a barista a landlord. You sure are making a point.
A starbucks barista is expected to gatekeep who’s allowed in their place of business too. Basically everyone in retail is working security as part of their job. They’re all cops, right?
A security guard gets a special uniform, sometimes a badge, the authority to use force, and is the first point of contact in any emergency.
A barista is expected to tell a homeless guy he can’t use the bathroom without buying something then calling the cops when he pisses on the floor. Most jobs involving “reporting” and “gatekeeping” is this.
This is the important part, and no they fucking don’t. Cops have the monopoly on violence. Security guards are not cops and do not have any special authority to use force that anyone else doesn’t. The idea of a security guard arresting someone is made up movie bullshit
The guards at my supermarket have a Glock and 2 magazines lol. They stand in the front of the store so I don’t think they’re following people around or care about lost prevention. They appeared after some gang shootings and robberies happened nearby. Most private guards in my downtown are also armed with pistols unless they’re new in which case they have tasers or pepper spray.
But I’m not saying they’re arresting you or detaining you - you can only volunteer to be detained. But they do have the authority to use force because they always do. I haven’t seen a single guard who wasn’t hostile and checking people or trying some Paul Blart shit unless they’re completely unarmed or very old, in which case they’re just following people and whispering to some clerk about a guy potentially stealing a sausage.
They literally asked if it would be the same for an American flag and the person said yes.
Apparently they’re committing a hate crime against literally everybody.
Or they’re cool
Putler hates America so it makes sense why his agent would prohibit the flag
Putin’s KGB runs security at MSG. Putin personally called MSG security himself and demanded the couple not be let in after seeing them on the live security footage with a Ukrainian flag.
Putler is so petty.