• Maggoty@lemmy.world
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    9 months ago

    Well they bombed the power and water facilities. They bombed the humanitarian evacuation routes and safe zones. They don’t do any warnings during high tempo mission periods, and they may warn as little as one person and give them 5 minutes to evacuate multiple apartment buildings. At that point it’s pro forma at best and torture at worst.

    You’re literally commenting on a thread where they shot at civilians. They wouldn’t in fact shoot every civilian though because they do still need to be able to shoot at Hamas and soldiers can’t carry an infinite amount of ammunition. Furthermore, they’re instigating a famine. So there’s no need to shoot them.

    And your last two points are just restatements.

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      When you can’t refute facts you just make things up or spout generalizations as universal facts?

      When did they bomb power and water facilities? What facility? What date? What was the explanation? What was the known intelligence? You can find it for just about any specific events you want to cite. Unless of course you’re just repeating bullshit generalizations that you heard somewhere.

      Who this sole individual that received a warning and given five minutes to evacuate multiple buildings? In my understanding the warnings are a model of effectiveness used by other militaries operating in urban environments all over the world. There are records of Hamas receiving warnings and then forcing every resident nearby up to the rooftop of the building to die for the cause.

      Instigating a famine? By what, opening humanitarian corridors in the first week of the war and continuing them virtually without interruption every day since? How many people have died of starvation so far, do you have any figures?

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        The ongoing violence after October 7 further exacerbates the crisis. The Applied Research Institute in Jerusalem estimated that of 581 key water and sanitation facilities, 37 were destroyed and 226 had suspected damage by November 14. Daily bombardments restrict civilians’ ability to collect water, render farming impossible, endanger staff operating water plants, and limit circulation of water tankers.

        CSIS

        Between 8 December 2023 and 7 February 2024, the entire population in the Gaza Strip (about 2.2 million people) is classified in IPC Phase 3 or above (Crisis or worse). This is the highest share of people facing high levels of acute food insecurity that the IPC initiative has ever classified for any given area or country. Among these, about 50 percent of the population (1.17 million people) is in Emergency (IPC Phase 4) and at least one in four households (more than half a million people) is facing catastrophic conditions (IPC Phase 5, Catastrophe). These are characterized by households experiencing an extreme lack of food, starvation, and exhaustion of coping capacities.

        IPC

        The IDF is severely restricting the flow of aid by keeping border crossings closed. The evidence is clear. On this track Israel will commit genocide by starvation.

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          They’re just going to say it was justified to kill all these people because Hamas fighters are in the vicinity. That person you are replying to doesn’t seem to understand that the presence of terrorists around people doesn’t excuse killing those people under any circumstance.

          They will shift the blame away to Hamas. It’s like if you and your whole family were getting murdered by someone, then they yell, “Look at whst you made me do!” as they stab your wife.

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            9 months ago

            Yeah it’s not my first round with this guy. But if nobody pushes back his narrative stands.