I view what’s happening to Avatar as representative of the general trends of media getting shittier thanks to the lazy short term profit chasing practices of streaming services and media conglomerates.
I don’t really think complaining about things getting crappier under late stage capitalism is really that unusual on a leftist community but if you wanna be a about it, I guess have fun
Having lived through gamer gate, I see striking similarities in the language, level of rancor, and “am I the only one seeing this?”
While it’s not misogynistic in the way gamergate was, per se, the irony is not lost on me that one of the chief complaints about Netflix’s avatar is the removal of misogyny.
What do I know? Just yall be careful with your brains because this type of anger and fixation can lead to bad places.
Edit: and there’s a level of personal attacks levied on the showrunner and malding over him “ruining” then you read the actual quote and it’s like “we didn’t think that worked so we didn’t use it”
Like, ok? If you don’t like it, don’t watch it or watch the original?
But to your point about corporate mindlessness. Yes. It’s been going that way for 15 years. I believe it’s because many execs now come from marketing so they don’t know how to inspire and wrangle creators like old school execs did before the corporate buy outs of media
This is a really gross misunderstanding of what people are saying Im almost convinced you subconsciously contrived it to perpetuate an “anti-treat bit”. The misogyny in question is a teenaged character who grew up in a very conservative society being chauvinistic to women in a rather pedestrian way, a behavior that gets called out and harshly punished within the first season, later leading to him realizing his error and growing into one of the most mature characters in the show. This would be like if they made a version of To Kill a Mocking Bird sans racism and people acted like it was a progressive victory.
and there’s a level of personal attacks levied on the showrunner and malding over him “ruining” then you read the actual quote and it’s like “we didn’t think that worked so we didn’t use it”
You’re correct some of that went a bit overboard, but honestly some of the quotes from that guy do suggest he has terrible media literacy. Also I mean he’s clearly a pretty successful show biz producer guy so I don’t think people on HexBear dissing his writing is going to hurt him in any direct way.
Like, ok? If you don’t like it, don’t watch it or watch the original?
Let people not enjoy things?
On a more serious note, perhaps we’re jumping the gun here having all this discourse before it comes out, but if this line really is a rule doesn’t it render all media criticism void? Shouldn’t everyone just shut up and quietly enjoy what they want? Or is there some value is people expressing their displeasure with the state of art and media? I mean you yourself did in the paragraph directly below this one.
These are all valid points. I’m just throwing a flag on the play because it isn’t “it” yet but as a trans Jewish person in America I have pretty sensitive hackles and this discourse got them trembling
It’s about the show looking like it’s gonna suck
I’m sorry your treats are not to your liking
I view what’s happening to Avatar as representative of the general trends of media getting shittier thanks to the lazy short term profit chasing practices of streaming services and media conglomerates.
I don’t really think complaining about things getting crappier under late stage capitalism is really that unusual on a leftist community but if you wanna be a
about it, I guess have fun 
Having lived through gamer gate, I see striking similarities in the language, level of rancor, and “am I the only one seeing this?”
While it’s not misogynistic in the way gamergate was, per se, the irony is not lost on me that one of the chief complaints about Netflix’s avatar is the removal of misogyny.
What do I know? Just yall be careful with your brains because this type of anger and fixation can lead to bad places.
Edit: and there’s a level of personal attacks levied on the showrunner and malding over him “ruining” then you read the actual quote and it’s like “we didn’t think that worked so we didn’t use it”
Like, ok? If you don’t like it, don’t watch it or watch the original?
But to your point about corporate mindlessness. Yes. It’s been going that way for 15 years. I believe it’s because many execs now come from marketing so they don’t know how to inspire and wrangle creators like old school execs did before the corporate buy outs of media
This is a really gross misunderstanding of what people are saying Im almost convinced you subconsciously contrived it to perpetuate an “anti-treat bit”. The misogyny in question is a teenaged character who grew up in a very conservative society being chauvinistic to women in a rather pedestrian way, a behavior that gets called out and harshly punished within the first season, later leading to him realizing his error and growing into one of the most mature characters in the show. This would be like if they made a version of To Kill a Mocking Bird sans racism and people acted like it was a progressive victory.
You’re correct some of that went a bit overboard, but honestly some of the quotes from that guy do suggest he has terrible media literacy. Also I mean he’s clearly a pretty successful show biz producer guy so I don’t think people on HexBear dissing his writing is going to hurt him in any direct way.
Let people not enjoy things?
On a more serious note, perhaps we’re jumping the gun here having all this discourse before it comes out, but if this line really is a rule doesn’t it render all media criticism void? Shouldn’t everyone just shut up and quietly enjoy what they want? Or is there some value is people expressing their displeasure with the state of art and media? I mean you yourself did in the paragraph directly below this one.
These are all valid points. I’m just throwing a flag on the play because it isn’t “it” yet but as a trans Jewish person in America I have pretty sensitive hackles and this discourse got them trembling