And I cannot stress this enough: bury their bones in an unmarked ditch.
Those are original Warhol boxes. Two Brillos, a Motts and a Campbells tomato soup. Multiple millions worth of original art, set on the floor by the front door.
Theres a regular customer whom i do plumbing work for, for the last 3 or 4 years. These belong to her. She also has Cherub Riding a Stag, and a couple other Warhols that i cannot identify, along with other originals by other artists that i also cannot identify. I have to go back to her house this coming Monday, i might get photos of the rest of her art, just so i can figure out what it is.
Even though i dont have an artistic bone in my entire body, i can appreciate art. I have negative feelings on private art like this that im too dumb to elucidate on.
eat the fucking rich. they are good for nothing.
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rip to Andy Warhol your lazy ass would’ve loved AI
If you’re in this thread arguing about how everything is art, I’m stealing shit off your porch
Warhol’s fed-subsidized works are bleak-yet-pretentious trash that have had a negative impact on the art world ever since and I’m tired of pretending otherwise.
In academia, just saying that out loud is likely to make the tenure-track art teachers lose their shit. So much for “subversion” when Warhol’s old cynical money printers have been the norm for decades.
Post modernism wad funded by feds but that doesn’t make it wrong or bad it just made it a less dangerous outlet for left leaning people during the time. Warhol was a crap person but his art was essential in mainstreaming ideas about art. He was like a Wes Anderson level guy so you get what you get. I’m not like…a fan but also have to admit he’s a huge inspiration to my own artwork through others. Like post modernism in general I’ve got a weird relationship that I’m working on adequately explaining but that’s like, a whole project.
My problem is that even the vestiges of the subversive/rebellious roots of it are the establishment now. They’re the big money in the art world and have been for generations. The tenured professors of art are almost universally on board and in agreement about the seemingly inexhaustible (yet exhausting) novelty of Warhol’s work roughly a half century ago.
I was so confused, maybe I’m too peasant brained and didn’t read the post properly, but for some reason I thought paintings were inside the boxes
At risk of sounding like a peasant, wtf makes those boxes art? Is me asking that the point, so that rich people and art snobs can look down on the people asking if it is art to reproduce a consumer item? I feel like I’m being involved in someone else’s masturbation
Warhol actually just fucking sucked and was a fed.
Is me asking that the point
yes
so that rich people and art snobs can look down on the people asking
not really
Warhol’s stuff was “controversial” (and eventually famous and stuff) because of this sort of thumbing-your-nose aspect. I mean the original Brillo box is art - an artist designed it to look appealing to consumers, tell you what’s in it, make you feel a certain way, etc etc. The Warhol Brillo box is a silkscreened wooden crate. Is that art? Is it Art? Warhol is the champion of pop art, which (if you’re being charitable) is one angle to look at lowbrow functional art that’s everywhere in our society. To approach from a different angle: I like socialist realism, it’s good for schmucks like me who like a simple story: Lenin or the People or whatever are great because they’re 9 heads tall and depicted in a cool dynamic pose, and it’s pretty, but it is usually not “great” art that makes you think. I see pop art as trying to make us think about whatever intrinsic, lowbrow appeal might be found in consumer art.
Of course Warhol was super good at the art market. Part of the thumbing-your-nose part is that he was making a whole run of these things, they didn’t take that much effort. Everything is silkscreened. Critic and buyer alike were aware that these were not that much more special than the version in stores, and yet somehow rich people were (and still are) paying through the nose for a Brillo box. I have a kind of grudging respect for that at least. I think that at some point, the art market is rich buyers paying to be let into the club - by becoming the butt of the joke they are let in on the joke.
Or as Roger Ebert put it,
Andy Warhol comes along with a genuinely new way of looking at things: pop art. He also has a sense of humor and a certain feel for the mood of our times. He was right. We were ready for pop art.
Then a lot of people, mostly from New York, invest large sums of money in Warhol. Once they’ve done that, they have a vested interest in keeping his stock up. Their interest is all the more frantic since most of them, I suspect, secretly believe Warhol’s soup cans are worthless. They lack the wit to see that Warhol’s art really is amusing and pertinent.
So they overpromote Andy, who overextends himself
Also Jesus christ thank you for apparently being the only other person here who’s taken an art class.
So Andy Warhol was the precursor to the bored ape yacht club?
Pretty much. I think the bored apes have a less interesting artistic merit at the core - I think they’re just designed to be intentionally ugly/tacky, which is less interesting to me than a new emphasis on existing commodity art - but both are historically interesting primarily because of the way they socially manipulate rich people.
(Also bored apes have the cryptofascist stuff going on)
