Klingons: okay we don't get it
Vulcan science academy: what what?
Klingons: You Vulcans are a bunch of stuffy prisses but you're also tougher, stronger, and smarter than humans in every single way. Why do you let them run your Federation?
VSA: Look. This is a species where if you give them two warp cores, they don't do experiments on one and save the other for if the first one blows up. This is a species where if you give them two warp cores, they will ask for a third one, immediately plug all three into each other, punch a hole into an alternate universe where humans subscribe to an even more destructive ideological system, fight everyone in it because they're offended by that, steal their warp cores, plug those together, punch their way back here, then try to turn a nearby star into a torus because that was what their initial scientific experiment was for and they didn't want to waste a trip.
VSA: They did that last week, we have the write-up right here. It's getting published in about six hundred scientific journals across two hundred different disciplines because of how many established theories their ridiculous little experiment has just called into question. Also, they did turn that sun into a torus, and no one actually knows how.
VSA: This is why we let them do whatever the hell they want.
Klingons: Can we be a part of your Federation?
Depending on the energy and resource requirements of transporters it may still be more efficient (and less risky) to build housing in space versus trans-orbital commuting via beaming.
I believe it’s been mentioned before that transporters are hard enough to build and run that most non-critical transport is still done with conventional shuttles to save resources and ensure timely transport for actually critical tasks. And Taking a shuttle commute from Earth to Spacedock would be a bit time consuming. And considering the thousands that would work at Utopia Planitia- yeah thats a decent bit of traffic.
Well they use replicators for food. I believe holodecks were explained as the same type of matter energy manipulation. So I’m not sure it would take that much.
transporters are hard enough to build and run that most non-critical transport is still done with conventional shuttles to save resources
When was this mentioned? I basically figured that Trek’s post-scarcity civilization would make the energy expenditures trivial.
OTOH – Mars is at least a day’s travel from Earth at Warp 1. I’m not sure what a reasonable range for the transporter is, but “multiple light-days” does seem a bit much.
I seem to remember it being discussed in some book somewhere, so idk if its Canon. I think it had less to do with energy and more to do with the actual logistics of having sufficient transporter pads and network bandwidth for volume of people.
Yeah, although think about having to coordinate communications between Utopia Planitia and Earth. It’s confusing as hell when NASA has to communicate with Mars probes. Everyone goes on “Mars time” schedules so they can coordinate communications times.
Not because Mars is so far away. Subspace communication wouldn’t make a difference. Because Mars and Earth have different day lengths.
I would seriously consider living in Utopia Planitia.
Like, I’ll take basic crew quarters as long as my porthole has a view of the yards.
Vulcans have an aneurysm trying to study Earth history.
Cue the copypasta: https://reactormag.com/the-answer-to-why-humans-are-so-central-in-star-trek/
I always loved this one:
PS: We just got a requisition for four warp cores.
I figured workers beamed up to the yards every day. Saves having to build crew quarters in space.
Depending on the energy and resource requirements of transporters it may still be more efficient (and less risky) to build housing in space versus trans-orbital commuting via beaming.
I believe it’s been mentioned before that transporters are hard enough to build and run that most non-critical transport is still done with conventional shuttles to save resources and ensure timely transport for actually critical tasks. And Taking a shuttle commute from Earth to Spacedock would be a bit time consuming. And considering the thousands that would work at Utopia Planitia- yeah thats a decent bit of traffic.
Well they use replicators for food. I believe holodecks were explained as the same type of matter energy manipulation. So I’m not sure it would take that much.
When was this mentioned? I basically figured that Trek’s post-scarcity civilization would make the energy expenditures trivial.
OTOH – Mars is at least a day’s travel from Earth at Warp 1. I’m not sure what a reasonable range for the transporter is, but “multiple light-days” does seem a bit much.
I seem to remember it being discussed in some book somewhere, so idk if its Canon. I think it had less to do with energy and more to do with the actual logistics of having sufficient transporter pads and network bandwidth for volume of people.
Yeah, although think about having to coordinate communications between Utopia Planitia and Earth. It’s confusing as hell when NASA has to communicate with Mars probes. Everyone goes on “Mars time” schedules so they can coordinate communications times.
Not because Mars is so far away. Subspace communication wouldn’t make a difference. Because Mars and Earth have different day lengths.
Isn’t it nice how everyone everywhere is awake at the same time in Star Trek?
Ships always meet oriented the same way too. You rarely see one ship upside-down from another. Usually only in combat.
For anyone who hasn’t seen it.
I knew what you had linked to before I even clicked on it.