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    Most communist parties in Brasil are alligned with imperialism, in part or as a whole. But PCO is grassroots communism, no academic bullshit or consessions for the burguersie. They talk to the people, defend palestine in actions (not just Internet posting), defend the working class etc etc. Lenin would be overhelmed with proud

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          Pcb is undergoing a major crisis. It will probably break at some point in the nearish future. It was an important party in the past, but for reasons i dont know they became an academic party and non-revolutionary to put it lighly. At some point one of their leaders (Mauro Iasi iirc) even suggested taking “leninist” out of their program

          Up i really dont know much about

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          1. You don’t know what electoralism is. UP does quite a lot of groundwork and agitation as well, just because they had a candidate up in the elections (which they didnt expect to win) doesnt mean tyey are electoralist.
          2. Don’t try to lecture on my own country, fuck off with that arrogant American shit.
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          Your analysis is based on a glance at a site lmao.

          UP is the electoral arm of another larger, radical organization. The point of it is to act as a tool for taking radical rhetoric into the elections and recruiting for the other, more openly ML and revolution-focused groups. It is not a whole thing in itself, just a tool of another larger movement.

          It is still a relatively new organization, though. They are ever more consistently showing up amongst organizers of events and lower level institutions, like universities.

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      I definitely don’t mean the “communist” parties. But PCO is… kinda Trotskyist no? And kinda conservative, anti-LGBTQ movements and such.

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        They are not kinda trotskyists, they are trotskyists. They are not conservadores, they are the most progressive party in the country. They are for right to abortion, legalization of drugs, same sex marriage, end of exploitation of woman, etc etc. What they are against (and thats where people get those ideas you pointed) is censorship, and in Brasil you have lots (and if you count the famous ones, all of them) of indentitarian movements infiltrated by CIA agenda points, asking to sendo people to jail amd censor them. A good example is the minister for human rights: Police gets into the slums and kill 30 people (guess their color) he says nothing, but some guy calls a fuebol player a monkey and he asks for the guy to be imprisioned. They defended gay people way before it was cooler, way before CIA took the movement over. Theres a particular case when a researcher found out that a very important person from the black movement (from the colonization time) was gay. People from the Black movement got pissed and asked for him to be censored and even beaten. PCO didnt agree with his thesis but they defended his right to say that and offered to shield him from the aggressions. The point is, their agenda is to bring forth communism, and it includes freedom of speech. When people ask them to betray this objective in order to support some identitarian movement thats asking for censorship, they say no. Does that make them anti lgbt?