Not including us, obviously. But on a public political level, holy shit lmao imaging being a dead-souled loser to allow yourself to get owned by fucking soyboy jones
Not including us, obviously. But on a public political level, holy shit lmao imaging being a dead-souled loser to allow yourself to get owned by fucking soyboy jones
This is starting to align again with all the people who predict Biden will still win. Once the Palestinian cause becomes politicized and turns into the same blue vs red team, once the genocide becomes a question of whether or not you’re handing it to Trumpists, it is over.
The neoliberals were definitely correct in pushing the whole Ukraine war as a matter of “western values” and if the Gaza genocide becomes “we can’t allow the Axis of Evil/Trump allies to dictate terms” shit then libs will support Biden even harder.
The only reason the Israel propaganda is less effective is the generational issue(gen z doesn’t care about Ukraine) and maybe Israel/Zionism went too hard and too fast on the whole “right to defend itself” narrative and it is hard to back off from that.
I can’t imagine a spin that Isntreal could have spun to make people like it when you kill a fuckload of people for no reason. Cause they sure pushed a hostages angle but then they killed hostages themselves. They pushed the human shield thing and nobody believed in tunnels under hospitals and then they used civilians as shields themselves. At some level it can’t just be narrative and the simple fact is that genocide is cringe. That’s why it’s not even left right - it’s not even left right as lefties know it. Nobody wants to give these freaks a goddamn dollar, some of us want to give them… a piece of our mind at the polls. I’d be shocked if you could spin a genocide in 4k as inevitable and just but a question whether Biden or trump do it. When it happened at the border people fucking hated Biden for it
Most people don’t really care about Ukraine and Gaza though. It works great for people that were already going to vote for Biden.
Biden still had an uphill battle with majority of non-voters outright hating him for the stupidest reasons.