He says “serious critical thinkers” and cuts to the sad kermit man.
The appeal of Star Trek was never the sci-fi angle or even the setting, both of which vary wildly in quality at the best of times
The actual appeal of Star Trek was always, always the characters. People didn’t write fanfics about Romulan politics. They wrote about Spock dicking down Kirk.
I’m sorry I completely disagree. You’re right about the characters being very appealing yeah that is indisputable, heck if you wanted to criticize you can go even far in the opposite direction and say at the worst of times the “traditional” Trek main cast are all very clearly stereotypes.
But in general despite the characters appeal that is was far from the complete extent of it. There is a lot you can reference and go back to, from real actual technical manuals to the old Trek forum, the old websites some of which still exist.
The Enterprise-D is probably the most developed “character” out of any fiction franchise, I’m willing to bet the amount of detail around that ship would easily crack top 100, maybe top 20 in all of western fiction.
50 years later and they’re still printing Illustrated handbooks of the ships e.g Star Trek: The U.S.S. Enterprise NCC-1701 Illustrated Handbook. You can find VR models from 10 years ago on YT. Trek shit was at the front of 90s PC media with games, you can guess why. Its a huge overlap with the white male middle class of the time.
The fandom always wanted and craved for the highly intellectual and technical shit. But this is exactly the problem and dilemma for producers(B&B and then Kurtzman), this is what the old fans want but not what the general audience wants.
Its why a lot of libs and normal people are not really bothered by nuTrek but the old fandom hates it. Why? Yeah as you said nuTrek is exactly that, its character driven, STD is literaly about MB only, its emotional, it leads to fanfics etc.
The old fans absolutely hate that shit so to say that old trek was just character appeal? Yeah no.
Discovery is character driven but the characters aren’t good
Star Trek was never actually that good.
People are just upset that TV isn’t as Utopian in 2024 as it was in 1966.
Edit:
Star Trek was never actually that good
are we sure about this guy?
“why i’m boycotting the three body problem”
“the pro authoritarian problem”
Yeah this guy keeps showing up in my feed, and nearly every time he does he’s shitting on China. He’s also pissed about the Hugos, despite the fact that the westerners were the ones censoring this past years event and not the Chinese.
Extremely generous read is he’s maybe a hardcore anarchist b/c I did see a leguin thing in there too. Just, like, if you’re an anarchist the west is not your friend
I just unsubscribed from him. Honestly his whole thing seems to be explicitly upholding bourgeois capitalism. The most boring tack you can take when critiquing sci fi. Love to support the youtube sf community, but I’m sticking with Quinn for now
I found a YouTube link in your post. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:
