• SnokenKeekaGuard@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    Lemon helping with scurvy was reported and recorded but then forgotten. I think losing knowledge is more likely than unreported knowledge, especially regarding lifes great mysteries.

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      Especially so for anything discovered more than a couple hundred years ago when most people couldn’t write, let alone have their findings instantly available to the world via the internet

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    Well just in case this ends up being a solution to some mystery I’ve not come across, here’s a genuine (albeit seemingly pointless) finding from a research project I did a while back:

    When saltwater is poured into the soil around the roots of a tomato plant, the plant’s internal electrochemical response oscillates with a 0.1hz frequency.

    I’m not sure what mystery that will solve but now nobody can accuse me of not reporting/recording it!

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    Very likely. This is one of the problems with our global social system.

    Keeping such a large proportion of people in poverty and lacking access to education basically guarantees that we’re missing out on more than half our Einsteins.

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        Not really sure what point you’re making here, could you explain a bit further?

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    I have made a truly marvellous discovery, which this post is too short to contain.

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    I think it’s closer to accurate that life doesn’t have a whole lot of “great mysteries”, not counting frontiers beyond which we simply can’t detect.

    Instead there’s just so much to learn, that it’s impractical for any individual to learn even a modest fraction of it. But, there’s usually some philosopher, or niche branch of medicine, or sect of monks somewhere or behavioral biologist or whatever that has figured out the answer to that particular question, and just nobody really bothers to ask them very often. And they only might know that one, just because they specialized in it. They won’t know any of the others, just like everyone else.

    Like, what is love could be a common one. But would you really say nobody knows, or just nobody starts knowing, but it is possible to figure it out, and rarely, some people do?

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    Some of these things probably were recorded, then promptly lost or provided no context. Ramanujan and his mathematical equations we are still trying to parce out is one great example of this.

    All the math is there, the context is not.

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      I guess if you’re talking math, there’s Fermat’s Last Theorem whose proof (assuming it was legit) was lost for centuries.

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    I don’t doubt it. It’s a bit like natural selection. A good idea has better odds of taking hold and becoming a part of the next generation’s knowledge base, but there are no guarantees. There are all sorts of circumstances that can affect whether this actually happens, and sometimes it’s just down to dumb luck.

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    Oh definitely! And not only cause humankind tend to forget something. We are a really western, at best on top asian and arabic region focused society. So we wouldn’t know if a guy in South America figured out the earth is round or saw gravitation like Newtown.

    Edit: and if you wanna read about how much Christianity destroyed knowledge everywhere they went. I would say chances are 99,9999% someone got erased from history

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      Not only this, but women have been suppressed for most of history and not allowed to participate or taken seriously. This means even in those societies where we were paying attention, we were listening to at best only the 50% of (generally white) men in that fraction of the world.

      Different field than the post, but Mozart’s sister comes to mind. She was also a prodigy, was toured around with Wolfgang and got top billings as a kid. But as soon as she was “marriagable age” she was not permitted anymore to pursue any career in music. She had to marry, have kids, and was a piano teacher the rest of her life. What incredible musical compositions could we have had from her, if the patriarchy had allowed?

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        Oh absolutely! And I really don’t know the names and all, but I heard a lot of great scientists and authors just stole the work of their wives and never really accomplished anything other than stealing (which was totally fine during those times). I can’t imagine how much rage and anger those women felt. So helpless and in the best cases belittled…

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    100% Has happened many times. Often those things are later re-discovered. But who knows?

    How many reporters around the world have had a car spontaneously explode, or suffered sudden-onset jumpeez near a window?

    How many scientists and researchers have had significant breakthroughs or discoveries about hazards of waste or energy efficiency, only for their work to suddenly be labeled falsified and personal reputations dragged through the mud?

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    I’m willing to believe they thought, “Wow! This is new! Oh, probably everyone else already knew it, it’s just new to me. I’m kinda embarrassed it took me so long to figure it out. I’ll just keep my previous ignorance to myself, by avoiding the whole topic.”

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      But the plans were on display…” “On display? I eventually had to go down to the cellar to find them.” “That’s the display department.” “With a flashlight.” “Ah, well, the lights had probably gone.” “So had the stairs.” “But look, you found the notice, didn’t you?” “Yes,” said Arthur, “yes I did. It was on display in the bottom of a locked filing cabinet stuck in a disused lavatory with a sign on the door saying ‘Beware of the Leopard.

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    It doesn’t seem very unlikely actually, plenty of things were conceptualized by someone long before they were coined/popularized. Problem is most ideas we can trace to someone were typically coined by people already reputed to be physicists or philosophers, the traction of ideas having always been anti-layman. There was some random old bishop from the late Roman period for example who spoke about making a United Nations, but no public mind was saying anything about it, so he got a reaction similar to one caveman talking about inventing the flashlight to curb the dangers of fire before the other one asks “what’s fire?”

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    An interesting question. There’s almost certainly someone, somewhere in the last 2000 years that has acquired some profound knowledge, only to not share it for whatever reason. I think as we progress more through the ages, the likelihood of this being some kind of breakthrough about the physical world keeps going down, if we’re talking one person discoveries. As we get more complicated problems, we require more specific and expensive equipment to gather data.

    I think the realm this is most likely to appear in today’s world is in the realm of mental health, psychology, consciousness, etc. Things that are, on some level, very much personal, but there’s almost certainly some profound bit that can be applied to the world at large.