• jaschen@lemm.ee
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    7 months ago

    Um… I’m perfectly OK with a “monopoly” for my fire fighting services. Why would I feel differently for my utilities services?

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      7 months ago

      I think it’s cute that people in a so-called solar"punk" community are against freedom. No freedom to start a business, no freedom to choose service providers. Did hexbear migrate to solarpunk?

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        7 months ago

        Nothing says punk more than enabling for profit corporations to hold sole ownership of the utilities that we need to continue living in a bare minimum standard of living. /s

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        7 months ago

        Please enlighten me on how I can start a utilities company? Make sure you give me details on how I can maximize profits to my shareholders while fucking over my customers.

        Or maybe I should start a non-profit utilities company, and the cost of your services is subsidized by taxpayers’ money. That way, I don’t have to constantly chase capitalism and make life better for my community instead of my shareholders.

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        7 months ago

        We’re talking about basic utilities though. Do you think the average person can start or run such a business? I’m honestly interested in the answer.

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            7 months ago

            Good point but I would say it’s hard to monopolize solar power since it’s easy to just buy your own panels. Wheras it’s not feasible to buld your own power plant.

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              7 months ago

              Wasn’t that the point though? You’re arguing that small scale power doesn’t exist when it clearly does.

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                7 months ago

                I never said that. Small scale power is always the way to go! Be it small hydro or solar panels!

                It’s very different to have small localized power and distribution networks than controlling a whole country’s power and then giving that whole network to a private company to manage.

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        7 months ago

        If the government decides to privatize utilities like electricity/gas or whatever, then sure it is freedom for some rich business owners to open up new businesses. However, this also results in those utilities becoming profit driven (as opposed to being for the public), and literally everyone in the country having to pay much more than they were paying previously.

        My country had electricity privatized around 4 years ago, and in result we have to pay a lot more, not to mention about numerous fraud cases that were all over the news during and after the privatization period.

        If you think that rich business owners being able to open up a couple of business at the expense of fucking over the public is a good thing and being against it is some weird hexbear delusion, then I’d advise you to get out of the libertarian bubble and look at the real world instead.

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        7 months ago

        It’s not the people in the solarpunk community (because of federation posts get federated throughout the fediverse) but rather people not noticing the community