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    The best part is the UN charter clearly states that when a country is attacked, it has aright to self defense. Let’s watch Israel talk their way around that as they vindicate Iran and incriminate themselves.

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            Do Israel’s “previous” attacks on Palestine justify the Palestinians attacking Israel in the present or future, more or less out of nowhere, if they feel like it?

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              Can you explain to me how a pogrom can ever be justified? Because that was what Palestinian terrorists did on October 7, under the applause of a worrying number of people. It was the kind of pogrom Jews have been experiencing for millennia.

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                A better example of a pogrom might be the killing of over 30,000 civilian Palestinians and simultaneously starving them to death with blockade following 75 years of occupation and a century of colonialism. Proportionality matters and it doesn’t favor your argument

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                  Yeah. For as inhuman as it was, “pogrom” doesn’t at all fit with the terrorist attack in October, but it fits perfectly to what Israel is currently doing in Gaza.

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                  At least update those false talking points you are repeating to the current year.

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                    You’re grasping at straws to try to invalidate me instead of saying anything that would back up your point making your argument weaker. There was no repetition from me so if you’ve heard this before it would seem you’ve had this discussion before and may benefit from listening. Perhaps you shouldn’t respond if you have nothing to say

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                I don’t at all think attacks on innocent Israelis are justified, no. I think the perpetrators of October 7th should get what’s coming to them and are most likely destined for hell.

                I’m pointing out that your logic would justify sudden attacks on Israel or the US by the Palestinians – say, on October 6th if they had bombed the embassy and killed some generals and some random civilians – because of “previous.”

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        One need not pretend something that is already factually accurate. This was a retaliation and direct response for Israel bombing Iran’s consulate in Syria on April 1. This is why Iran targeted and struck the Negev air force base ( which contains US F-35s used to bomb Gaza ) as that is the base from which that attack originated. This is also why Iran says it now considers the matter “concluded” and warned the US and Israel against further reprisals. Those are facts and not “pretending” so if you are going to “pretend” this isn’t true and try to distort the matter I’m not interested.

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        They literally killed two Iranian generals and a bunch of other officials at a consulate. So yes, Israel is trying to escalate a regional war so Bibi can keep his genocide going. Iran has actually showed pretty remarkable restraint.

        It’s the same old tired play that fascists do to stay in power. Like, literally every time, and somehow people don’t catch on…