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    The worst is when the fan makes the sweat too cool so I throw my blanket on, only to sweat more, throw it off, and repeat the cycle.

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      I too struggled with finding bedding that was not too heavy, breathable, but warm. I picked up an alpaca wool blanket from eBay and use that with a top sheet and the ceiling fan. It’s pretty amazing.

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      It’s barely a season though. Summer and winter are months long. Any place that actually gets something akin to autumn anymore, itonly lasts for like a few weeks. If that. There are two seasons: summer and winter. They just have barely discernible transition periods which more often than not amount to a few days of back and forth weather, from nice for a day or two, back to the previous seasons temps, then lurching forward to the next, then back and forth with some median-“season” days mixed in mid swing.

      Thanks Shell, Exxon, BP, Koch industries, Lockheed, et al

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      It’s my favorite season, except this past year it was rarely ever cool. Winter was better this year. I feel like that’s only going too become more true as we go on.

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      Clothes-wise sure, we put it 100W at rest, we need only capture that.

      I really don’t get why you can still buy cooling-only air conditioners when any heat pump can work just as well in either direction

      Every aircon should heat or cool the indoor space as required

      Then it becomes easy to cool or warm at ~400% efficiency

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        As s far as window units go, one of the biggest losses is in insulation around the window.

        Those that have window units do so because there’s really no alternative.

        Would bi-directional window-mount ACs be effective heaters, given how much loss a window unit sees through drafts?

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          If it works for cooling there’s no reason it wouldn’t work for heating. If they need to stand in the air path for cooling they will need to stand in the air path for heat

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            Yeah but the ∆T between cooling and heating is way different.

            Here in MA, we cool as much as Outdoor - 30F, but we often heat Outdoor + 50F. Sometimes more. Drafts introduced by a poor seal (which is often the case with window units) would be a big deal, no?

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    This is a silly thing to argue over because we don’t get to pick seasons and have to live through the one currently on.

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      If you can’t pick seasons you just need to pick yourself up by the bootstraps. No reason anybody can’t pick seasons.

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      You can however move to a hotter/colder climate. You don’t need to suffer the climate you don’t enjoy if you’re willing to suffer the consequence

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      Winter is about to arrive down here. It’s dry season, with “cold” (18-22º C) nights and scorching hot (29º+) days. Oh, and there’s a fuckton of heatwaves that might come around, which are totally not caused by excessive pollution and CO2 emission!

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    I have an in-window AC that runs on full blast at night in the summers on top of my whole-house AC. 58 degrees FTabsoluteW.

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          Not gonna do shit at night.

          I bought a battery for mine but you’re about to find how just how much power your AC system uses.

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              In relation to how much power you’re going to make.

              Are you buying batteries? Unless you’re buying a whole lot of them ($$$) you’re not even making it one night running your AC like that.

              I spent $10k on a whole home battery and it got me 1/3 of my average daily power use.

              I stress average because summers were double that, sometimes 2.6x.

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                I don’t know where you are from, but I’ve been to the US a couple of times and I can understand why the AC power bill can be absurd there. You cannot keep, in August, in the middle of the desert, AC at 18°C when outside there are 35-40°C. It’s criminal on so many levels.

                I had a layover in Atlanta last summer and I got home sick, so much was the air conditioning in the airport and in shops and restaurants. Outside it was proper sweating hot, inside I was freezing while wearing a hoodie. I’ve been on a bus where the driver was wearing a heavy jacket, in August, and all because the bus AC was set to something like 15°C. What is wrong with Americans?

                Keep AC at 25-27°C, remove all blankets and clothes when you go to sleep, and I bet you it will consume a lot less energy. Unless you live in the Death Valley, in which case, good luck.

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                  Yup, could do this. Have tried to do this. Slept like shit. Not worth it. I’ll spend the extra $50/mo on cranking the AC to wake up each day feeling decent.

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                  This was in west Texas so yeah, basically desert.

                  I fully agree - every thread like this has people coming out of the woodwork claiming they’d simply die if their house isn’t =< 65f. Maybe it’s because we’re so fat?

                  25c/77f is a perfectly reasonable temperature to have your house at. If I lived alone, it’d be 78 in the summer.

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                I spent $10k on a whole home battery and it got me 1/3 of my average daily power use.

                Good thing you have a sun for most of the other 2/3.

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                  Have you even looked at the power curve of solar system output? You’re being obtuse.

                  Plus you seem to have completely ignored the last portion of my comment.

                  I rarely had months where I zeroed out my bill since I was in an area where credits weren’t a thing. My overproduction was sold back at ~$0.03 per kWh. I had to buy at ~$0.12.

                  You can be snarky if you like. You’re still wrong if you think that’s enough to cover summer days.

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          My house was built with vents, un-closable, always venting vents. Inside temperature equals outside air temperature plus a little draft as the air moves from inside to outside and outside to inside

          Heating or cooling is economically impractical, except in two rooms, one with no vent and one with a vent blocked with foil

          I look forward to a knock down/rebuild where the future house will be will insulated and will exchange air with the outside in measured, heat exchanged doses and solar powered air con can heat or cool the house in peak solar generation and the house will be pleasant the rest of the day and night. I’m comfortable in 18°C to about 26° in winter and a little offset upwards in summer, and it’s pretty easy to build to not gain or lose more than 8° in 18 hours in my climate (lows in the single digit negatives Celcius; highs seldom more than 40°C)

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      I set my AC to 26°C (79°F) in summers. As far as I know, most people in my country do somewhere between 20 and 26°C (68~79°F).

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      I bet you also sleep with a heavy blanket as if it were winter.

      I got sick last time I was in the US cause everywhere was like 16°C while outside was like 30-35°C. What’s your problem, people?

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        We love AC. We also realize that it’s easier tod add layers than to take them off, when out in public.

        Bring a hoodie? 🤷

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      Wow. I am impressed from where I sit, in a house with the AC set to 66F, sometimes 65, to save energy vs where we might otherwise set it.

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        People consider 70 ideal, don’t they? So 65 is only a saving in winter, you would set a higher temperature than ideal in summer

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          Yeah, it was kind of a joke to say I’d probably like it even colder.

          And 65 does just happen to be our default winter setting!

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        lol no, that’s the most american thing about me and i refuse.

        i literally use metric for everything else in my day job and overall life; but for temperature, Fahrenheit makes more sense to me. 100 F? deadly. 70 F? great. 50 F? chilly. 0 F? deadly.

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          This. Fahrenheit is by far the better temperature scale for talking about environmental temps

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              0-100F is a base 10 scale that has inherent advantages. It’s not just “what you’re used to” any more than you get used to base 10 anything, including all of the metric system. (Which should be redesigned around base 12, but that’s a whole different rant).

              Beyond that, I find that 1 degree Celsius is too wide of a measurement for a lot of things, especially in the kitchen. My sous vide steaks get cooked at 130F, and that tends to be +/- 1F with the accuracy of the sous vide. If I said it’s at 54C +/- 1C, that’s not quite right. 54C is closer to 129F, so it’s almost outside the accuracy range already. Plus, that 1C of accuracy covers 2.2F, so the finish temperature could be anywhere from 126.8F to 132.2F. Way outside the range, the steak does come out different at those temperatures, and the lower end of that is potentially unsafe (though that’s a complicated topic, as well).

              But then if I say 54.4C +/- 0.45C, now I have to use more numbers (since numbers with zeros at the end, as in the F example, are easier to remember) with more decimal places to get to the same thing. Dropping down to milligrade or whatever is now using a prefix that’s uncommon with this unit of measurement.

              But then, I also want to use grams to measure everything out in the kitchen. Ounces and cups are crude for no real advantage.

              Metric’s ability to convert between units easily isn’t particularly useful in the kitchen. Unless you’re doing some molecular gastronomy shit, that is.

              Purity is not a virtue. Being able to use different measurement systems in different contexts is an advantage.

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                0-100F is not base 10 at all, it’s just what you grew up with. I grew with Celsius and I can easily feel the difference in a few degrees. TV weather people saying that the temp will be in the 80s is less useful to me than if they tell me if it will be 27°C for example

                Why would you do ±1°C if the sous vide can do decimals?

                Also, the recipe calls for 130°F because it was made by an American, if you look for European recipes it will probably say 54°C. Neither will add decimals to their recipes because that’s just being anal

                I use F in the kitchen a lot because most of my appliances work in that and also because I basically learn to cook until I moved to the US, so again, what you are used to

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                  0-100F is not base 10 at all,

                  Umm, yes, it is. Zero and a hundred, and convention is to break up temperatures like “it’s in the forties”. It’s all base 10.

                  TV weather people saying that the temp will be in the 80s is less useful to me than if they tell me if it will be 27°C for example

                  Is it going to be 27C all day long? Is it going to be between 80 and 90 all day long? One is more likely than the other, and even if it’s 78 in the morning, that’s fine, doesn’t make much difference.

                  Here, C is overly precise for the task.

                  Why would you do ±1°C if the sous vide can do decimals?

                  Because 130, a number with a zero at the end of it, is easier to deal with than 54.4.

                  This has an effect on UI, as well. Two buttons for going up or down. With F, you can do that in 1 or 0.5 degree increments. In C, it’d have to be 0.1, and you’re pressing it more to get to where you want.

                  Also, the recipe calls for 130°F because it was made by an American, if you look for European recipes it will probably say 54°C.

                  Which will be wrong. Steak turns out differently with slight changes in temperature around this level. European recipes will have to go to 54.4C.

                  Neither will add decimals to their recipes because that’s just being anal

                  No, it’s using sous vide properly. Precision is why you do it.

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                  TV weather people saying that the temp will be in the 80s is less useful to me than if they tell me if it will be 27°C for example

                  Well this isn’t really an accurate comparison. If they know an exact temperature, they would say it in both measurements. But they don’t. So “in the 80s” is the perfect range. Preparing for 80 degrees is almost identical to how you would prepare for 89 degrees. There’s no metric equivalent. The “20s” is way too big of a range. 20 vs 29 is a huge difference. Also, with it being base 10, you don’t really need more information. 80 is 80% hot. Think of the hottest weather you’ve been in. 80 degrees is about 80% of that. And before you say “I’ve been in 115 degree weather”. Yeah, so have I, I lived in arizona, and 115 is honestly not too much different than 100. After 100 it doesn’t matter much. Same with below 0. But the 0-100 range, each degree matters quite a bit

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                If it had advantages over being what one was used to, it would be more popular. It’s not, so it couldn’t be.

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          You expect us to not notice how you skipped over the entire 0-50 range there? “It’s just better for everyday temps” my ass.

          Also 100F is not deadly if you got water and aren’t working hard, and neither is 0F if you got appropriate clothing.

          And don’t get me started on how y’all pretend that measuring temperature has to be on this stupid ass scale “because it goes to a hundred where I live” but then y’all count your school grades (which are entieely made up and would cost literally nothing to change) to 3.8 or whatever the fuck.

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      Spring is the worst fucking season weather wise. It’s perpetually wet and rainy, and the temperature is erratic. In the past 3 weeks it has been 55, 75, then 30, and now we are up to 80 in my part of Ohio. You cant accommodate for it, you cant plan anything outside, and my allergies go absolutely bananas. Summer is consitent, and the fall never really has wild weather changes, just a steady cooling down.

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        Apparently you don’t live in Scotland (west coast at least). Spring may not be warm, but we get some clear dry days, and if you’re in the sun and out of the wind you can feel the heat. By summer it’s so muggy and humid that 15 degrees (Celsius) feels oppressive. I used to live in Australia but the (not-)heat here feels worse.

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          No, but my mom’s from Newcastle and i have spent a lot if time in Northern England.

          And after all the time i having grown up in St. Louis and having spent years in Houston, humidity will never bother me again.

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        Nah man, rain is beautiful. It sounds amazing, makes everything look amazing, and makes the world look so much more vibrant afterwards.

        If it rained two or three times a week until the end of time I’d be the happiest man alive.

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    Nah, #teamsummer here. I struggle so much in the winter. I either the blanket is too thick and I’m warm but at the cost of waking up drenched it sweat or it’s too thin and I have a hard time falling asleep because it’s chilly. There’s just no blanket that’s breathable and isolates well. In the summer I can just use a thin cotton bed sheet and sleep with the window open. Nights like this are one of my favorite things and I love falling asleep to the sound of crickets chirping outside.