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        Yeah, if history has taught as nothing else, it’s that the guy with the biggest stick usually wins. There are many criticisms of the U.S. military, but no one could accuse it of being weak. That kind of deterrence is invaluable.

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    As much as I love science, and I’d much rather see billions spent on a collider than war, I gotta admit this is funny as hell.

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    “Ok, but what does this collider do, that the one you have in the garage won’t do ?”

    Mrs Cern.

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      Yep, that was when the US jumped the shark. It was the exact moment, Oct 20, 1993, we went “fuck science, we’re only doing short term profits now.”

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    for context 22 billion is a few billions less than what elon musk overpaid for twitter. i don’t think a bigger collider will do anything but I’d like for humanity to have this rather than whatever the fuck the rich are doing now.

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      Yeah… And at least this will generate jobs… And not reduce them like it did on Xitter.

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        Cern has produced quite some interesting systems for software and data management. I am sure the added value of the work is beyond just understanding particles.

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    This is starting to turn into some Full Metal Alchemist shit. If you know, you know.

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    If scientists had their way they’d have built the big one first. Or at least something reasonably larger than what they have… it’s politics that is capitalism and war that is the addiction preventing us from having nice things

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      I think the experience of building the previous smaller ones helped though. I think if you just go for the large one, it will probably fail or overrun the budget and we’ll have nothing to show for the money spent.

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      There’s this (true) anecdote that precision measurements at CERN/LHC need to take into account the schedule of high-speed trains in the area because they cause tiny, yet measurable disturbances in the power grid.

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    Is not only about physics research. The complexity of those projects fund hundreds of sectors and push forward new technologies who will have many commercial use.

    …Also they’ve confirmed the existence of this little thing called Higgs Boson which field define pretty much reality, soo… not exactly wasted time.

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        They posit that yes, black holes could be formed, but they’re so small they evaporate pretty much instantly. They don’t have the mass to survive.

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      Awesome. And with reality defined my daily existance and cost of living is. … Exactly the same and killing me. 🙃

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    Shit Sabine Hossenfelder would say. (She funny tho…)

    Edit: I had no idea about her questionable actions so that is news to me.

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        Ok, that I didn’t know. Off to find some references.

        (I have fairly strong opinions about people like that. Hell, I refuse to watch any Tom Cruise movies because of his association with scientology, just as an example.)

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      There will be.

      Colliders work best at specific speeds, like gears on a car. The big collider is fed by a smaller one. That one is likely fed by an even smaller one. Eventually, you get small enough that a simple linear accelerator can get the gas up to speed.

      Oh, and likely a scientist/engineer grinning manically as they “push the trigger” on the largest rail gun in existence.