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    Seinfeld has publicly supported Israel following the 7 October Hamas attack, and traveled to a kibbutz in December to meet with hostages’ families

    In case you’re wondering what the argument is. You should still read the story though.

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      That’s the biggest part of the reason, but there’s also the fact that he’s been complaining about how the ‘woke left’ has destroyed comedy. That’s not exactly going to endear him to young adults either.

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        Also, the whole reason he’s complaining about comedy being destroyed is that he hasn’t been relevant in over 25 years. So even ignoring everything, he’s some boring old dude that hasn’t been that relevant the entire life of most of the graduates. They selected someone that the staff might be impressed by, but not someone that is vaguely interesting for the actual graduates.

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          Exactly. I enjoyed his stand-up comedy back in the 80s and 90s. I enjoyed his sitcom (although that was mostly down to Larry David), but the world has moved on. Comedy evolves. If you can’t evolve with it, you end up being Don Rickles in the world of George Carlin.

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            It’s sort of laughable to have him give a commencement speech. Who the hell cares about this old dude.

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              I like how in his documentary he lays out all his yellow legal pads of material like I’m suppose to be impressed he wrote stuff down.

              Wow, dude, you’re so smart.

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          As a 24 year old who spent way too much time watching 90s reruns, Seinfeld was just kinda meh. 3rd rock and married with children were better IMO, also the married with children lingerie scene was my sexual awakening.

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            Funny, at the time, I thought Seinfeld was better (and more innovative) than either of those. Married With Children was mostly just about being as crass as possible, which has been topped significantly since by shows like South Park and Always Sunny, which broadened their shows to not make it just about “how trashy can we get” and Third Rock… eh. Mostly just weird for weirdness’ sake.

            Seinfeld had some pretty decent ideas for a sitcom like the episode taking place entirely while waiting in the restaurant entrance for Chinese take-out or the episode which is entirely set in a parking garage. There just wasn’t TV like that back then.

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          Also, the whole reason he’s complaining about comedy being destroyed is that he hasn’t been relevant in over 25 years.

          YouTuber MovieBob absolutely nailed it when he said in his recent review of the new stupid Seinfeld movie that at this point going “anti-woke” is just a marketing move for older washed up comedians. Most of them probably don’t even give a shit but it’s vastly easier to pander to the crowd so desperate for any validation of their hateful rhetoric than it is to write new insightful jokes that resonate with a culture you’re quickly aging out of.

          Of course none of this is to defend Seinfeld; if anything being a manipulative conman willing to pander to the worst appetites in America is arguably even worse than genuinely believing the bullshit in the first place.

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            Seinfeld is a Billionaire. If I ever had 1% of that, I’d never try to force myself to be relevant and happily accept I’m not relevant anymore.

            I’d expect that’s in fact the natural trajectory of being in pop culture, that your time of relevance is fleeting, and plan accordingly. No hurt feelings that no one is lining up for your material anymore, it happens to almost every single person in that field. You only can make your legacy worse by trying to force things, exit on a high note.

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        And the point of a lot of old comedy was based on shitting on other people. The “woke left” is the kids calling us out on being assholes for no reason.

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          The ironic thing is that the show Seinfeld was more like IASIP than Friends, in that the characters were mostly shitty people, and the joke was usually on them (even though they similarly often destroyed the lives of people around them.)

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      Seinfeld has publicly supported Israel following the 7 October Hamas attack, and traveled to a kibbutz in December to meet with hostages’ families. He has been “uncharacteristically vocal” about his support during press calls for his new film, Unfrosted, *The New York Times *reported.

      The comedian, who was receiving an honorary degree from Duke, largely stayed away from the issue at the centre of the protests during his speech. At one point, he mentioned his Jewish heritage which was met with applause from the crowd.

      “I grew up a Jewish boy from New York,” he said. “That is a privilege if you want to be a comedian.”

      Outside Duke’s stadium on the Durham campus, Gaza-supporting students chanted: “Disclose, divest, we will not stop, we will not rest.”

      A bit more context

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      Seinfelds wife also donated to the riot mob throwing fireworks into the UCLA pro palestine camp

      https://uk.news.yahoo.com/jessica-seinfeld-bill-ackman-fund-200308497.html

      Jessica Seinfeld, cookbook author and wife to comedian Jerry Seinfeld, is funding a pro-Israel counterprotest at UCLA—where violence broke out Tuesday night after a mob attacked demonstrators inside a pro-Palestine encampment.

      A GoFundMe for the effort, which Seinfeld promoted in an Instagram story this week after contributing at least $5,000, has since made the majority of its donations anonymous. The fundraising page has raised more than $93,000 as of Wednesday and also changed its organizer name and description since launching over the weekend.

      “I just gave to this GoFundMe to support more allies like yesterday’s at UCLA,” Seinfeld wrote this week. “More cities are being planned so please give what you can. Donations are annonymous [sic]. We will continue to share our light and love, as proud American Jews.”

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    I find it funny that everyone assumed they walked out over Gaza, while I assumed it was because Jerry Seinfeld isn’t funny.

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        Which coincidentally is the primary reason I’ve never found him funny. All egotistical assholes I’ve ever met thought they are hilarious. They are mostly just incredibly cruel and bigoted.

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          I thought he was funny playing a petty, egotistical asshole as a character. It became a lot less funny after realizing he’s just like that.

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            Watching Seinfeld is like watching people endlessly criticize other because they are given license to since they themselves are jokes. Never will you find a heartfelt moment. Never will you see someone reflect on how awful they’ve been to other people.

            George trys to but is instantly ridiculed.

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            Same goes for Ricky Gervais IMO…shout out to Karl Pilkington who genuinely was the funniest part of Derek before he became fatigued with Ricky’s bullshit.

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            Cleese wears the lampshare well though.

            Seinfeld thinks he has important things to say. The show’s Hot Coffee arc and the jabs at the “A dingo ate my baby!” woman didn’t age well.

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    The guy who said woke (aka not self centered sociopaths) have ruined comedy even though his partner on Seinfeld has had a wildly successful hit comedy series burning everyone for like eight years?

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    Tbh I’m glad and support their reasoning but I would have walked out on Seinfeld even if he had no connection to Israel just because he’s an entitled smug bag of shit

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    Tomorrow he’s going to complain about being “cancelled” and how he “can’t say things anymore” while talking about the event where he was invited to speak in front of a college full of students.

    You can say whatever you want, people don’t have to listen.

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      Exactly. Plus the right to free speech doesn’t equate to being free from criticism, or as you said, general disinterest.

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    I’m confused. By all accounts Jerry and the entire cast came together to point out their hate for Trump and Republicans. But because he doesn’t agree with one issue he’s been labeled as a right winger? I’m so far left that young leftists think I’m too extreme, to the point where they call be right wing for disagreeing with every tiny thing they say. The young left have become the keepers of “right/wrong think”

    Edit: a lot of young people who call themselves left, are doing everything possible to push people away from the left, instead of making them allies.

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      Can you point out where anyone labeled him as a “right winger?”

      Your comment is a complete false dichotomy based solely off a strawman argument.

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        You’re not paying attention. I’ve seen him called right wing quite a few times outside of Lemmy, different forums etc. Also lots of articles out there essentially calling him the new right wing mouthpiece.

        All you gotta do is Google

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          I’m so sorry to inform you of this, but in the year of our Zord 2024, we are no longer accepting “one of the ten billion apes, bots, advertising agencies, liars, and trolls who are screaming into the Internet at all times said something I disagree with” as a valid source of outrage, controversy, or secondhand conversation.

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      The “one issue” happens to be supporting a genocide, so it’s kind of a big one? I haven’t seen anyone calling him right-wing, but you can bet if cops were firing rubber bullets at peaceful student protesters under a republican administration, every lefty from NY to LA would be wringing their hands and crying “fascism”. The times they are a-changing my friend. It’s not just about left or right, and I’m glad these kids understand that.

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      And the dude openly dated a minor when he was nearly 40, "Shoshanna is a person, not an age. She is extremely bright. She’s funny, sharp, very alert. We just get along. You can hear the click.”

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        Chappelle has said far worse things about every other race than Richards did about black people that night, but as we know that somehow doesn’t count

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          You might not have noticed, but young adults aren’t big Chapelle fans these days either. The whole transphobia thing doesn’t play so well with the under-40s.

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          And Chapelle’s comedy is cringe and awful, and completely unrelated to the topic at-hand. Nice strawman.

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      “”“One issue”“”

      Which is supporting a genocide.

      Also he’s recently joined the whole “woke has ruined comedy” bit. Which is very much right wing.

      Oh and he’s also a predator that dated a teenager when he was in his 30s.

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      I’ve always found the left more annoying than the right. The right are wrong, but the left are self-righteous smug dickheads. Liberals are like a chimera of both and I think that’s why I hate them more than the right even though they’re objectively less bad. That’s my shitty analysis anyway.

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      It’s just the rise of loud, groupthink edgelords, refusing to think past a hyper-emotional brainwash.

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        Opposing a genocide and those who support it makes you a hyper-emotional edgelord? That’s quite the edgelord take on the subject.

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      That’s how it works these days.

      I’m pro-trans, but I’m not pro-trans people in women’s sports. This makes me a anti-trans nazi in the vast majority of leftie/progressivist people’s eyes, who clearly is a closeted Trump supporter. It’s the whole ‘we must be intolerant of intertolerance’ type fo thing… but they’ve twist it to ‘we must be intolerant of any disagreement whatsoever with our unrealistic ideological agenda that has no basis in a factual reality’.

      There is no allowance for variance of reasonable opinion or an objective reality. You are with us, or against us, and therefore the enemy.

      Lefties and young folks who are left leaning tend to be as braindead and lockstep as the Trumpers they claim to hate.

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        with our unrealistic ideological agenda that has no basis in a factual reality

        I think I’ve spotted their issue with you.

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        “I’m pro-trans, but I’m not pro-trans people in women’s sports.”

        If you’re “pro-trans” then that means you believe that, for example, a trans woman is a woman, because she says she is.

        So then you don’t believe women should compete in women’s sports?

        Showing your ass there, huh?