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    cause a loss for the west is a win for the third world. its not russia that has been couping, invading and generally fucking with most of planet earth.

    you can’t fuck us for a couple of centuries then expect us to be on your side, we will take a status quo thats less bad.

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        No, no, that’s just Defending Their Historical Interests, or whatever the fuck fascist simps wearing red say nowadays.

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        laughs in every other country in the planet including mine. the entirety of africa and south america sends its regards.

        what russia does pales in comparison. they don’t have that reach.

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      its not russia that has been couping, invading and generally fucking with most of planet earth.

      lol

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        not close to the extent europe still is. i will take an improvement, tyvm.

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          Well, it isn’t an improvement.

          Unless you believe Imperialist Russia, which are known all over the world for their propaganda.

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            hahahahah look up the west’s influence all over the globe. look inside first.

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            nope. i’m happy to announce my country has commited no atrocities outside its own border.

            we haven’t imposed our shit on anyone else, and we are slowly healing from it as far as yours will allow it.

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              nope. i’m happy to announce my country has commited no atrocities outside its own border.

              Ha, damn you must be so far up your own ass you believe your countries propaganda.

              There isn’t a single country in the world that didn’t commit atrocities at some point in history.

              Please tell me I am wrong by stating your country.

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                Op’s a tankie and I’m not defending him, but I’m pretty sure there’s some countries/cultures that haven’t done anything outside of their own borders. One example that I know of, unless I’m forgetting something, is Romania. Always been on the defense, never the aggressor, afaik. Pretty sure some island nations are the same. Maybe some African ones as well. Some native american and australian as well, I think.

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                did you even read what i wrote? thanks for teaching me the history of my own country.

                maybe do this less and we wouldnt have this problem.

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          You can’t “likewise”, they only called you out, it isn’t even a take.

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          Nice what aboutism. Not like russia did just as many atrocious things, but keep pretending. Just makes you look like a russian troll, not like a “third worlder”

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        this one. study your own history, you have been continuously killing brown people nonstop for what? at least 50years now?

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          And Russia literally teamed up with the Nazis and only fought back because they were stupid enough to get betrayed. Russia has a pretty colorful history if you wanna get down to the nitty gritty of things.

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            Every time you people equate the Russian Federation with the USSR, you’re telling on yourselves. The government completely changed, the current one destroyed the old one, and the only continuity is the location and the people. So if you equate the two, then it sounds to me what you’re really saying is that Russian skull shape or whatever makes them inherently inclined towards violence regardless what form of government they adopt. Which begs the question, what is your ultimate, you know, final solution for this apparently genetically inferior race?

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            you need to study some history then.

            they literally defeated the nazis at great cost to themselves. buy they were socialist back them, different times than today.

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              Seems it is you that should study history. Russia fought the Nazis only once Hitler turned on them.

              The Soviet Union and Nazi Germany signed the Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact in August 1939. It was publicly a non-aggression treaty, but it included a secret protocol in which eastern European countries were divided into spheres of interest.

              From here: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winter_War

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                you do realize this treaty failed, because nazis invaded them anyway and the soviet union defeated nazi germany?

                understand the context in which you are saying this before equating the soviet union to modern russia.

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                  understand the context in which you are saying this before equating the soviet union to modern russia.

                  Awfully similar if you ask me. ✔️Dictator then and now. ✔️Russia choosing to invade their neighbors instead of allying with Europe for the common good ✔️ Russia working secretly with their allies to carve up Eastern Europe

                  If it looks like an orc, and walks like an orc…

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          you have been continuously killing brown people nonstop for what? at least 50years now?

          Would be more like 200 something, no? Since the inception of the nation, basically, right?