• Gork@lemm.ee
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    3 days ago

    Universal basic income will start in the 2030s, which will help cushion the harms of job disruptions. It won’t be adequate at that point but over time it will become so.

    In the US? Fat fucking chance. The social safety net here is so poor that even the amount you get for unemployment is the same as it was decades ago, which doesn’t pace with inflation and can’t even cover rent anymore.

    I don’t believe I’ll see UBI in my working lifetime. There are too many powerful interests that oppose it.

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      1 day ago

      Yes, so many people fail to see the existential stakes here. They think that even a bandaid like ubi is inevitable, because they don’t acknowledge the possibility that we could just die.

      Like that if it’s cheaper to let us gather in unregulated tent cities and croak from the new plagues that blossom there, then that’s what’ll happen.

      Obviously it’s not good for anyone in the long term, but corpos can’t think long term.

      • froztbyte@awful.systems
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        1 day ago

        but corpos can’t think long term

        they can. it’s just that, structurally, incentives are far more strongly geared to not do that in almost all cases.

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          I hovered on that word while writing it; almost put “can’t afford to think long term,” but that is even more ambiguous…

          Anyway, thank you, I agree with your distinction.

          My feeling is those incentives are so strong that anyone behaving too long term will usually get their lunch eaten by someone who is just out to make a quick profit.

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      2 days ago

      The US doesn’t have a functional healthcare system yet, and they’re like a century behind on that at this point.

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      3 days ago

      A friend of mine got the shit end of a “restructuring” at work the other day and immediately started applying for unemployment. Florida hasn’t increased that benefit in almost a decade (probably longer) so he’ll be getting the same paltry $275/wk that I got many many years ago when I was on unemployment for a bit. I hope he finds a new job soon because there’s absolutely no way to live on that.

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      The social safety net here is so poor that even the amount you get for unemployment is the same as it was decades ago, which doesn’t pace with inflation and can’t even cover rent anymore.

      In .nl our far right gov has seen this and decided to uncouple unemployment and wages/inflation as well. So yeah lol.