ban tipping. enforce living wages
American tipping culture is bullshit. And to start with 30% is just plain stupid.
But not tipping at all is bullshit. I really need the taxfree money to buy drugs to cope with how fucking annoying and disrespectful half of all my guests are.
Id wish to be paid enough to not need tips, but to afford that my boss would have to raise the prices and other venues would snatch the costumers.
Just tip cash (5-15% is enough in most of europe).
Whenever those POS ask for a tip I always click “no tip” and I learned to not worry about what someone else will think. I felt pressured the first time, but I learned that nothing happens if you don’t give a tip. I believe those go straight to the owner anyway.
I still have some hangups about when I am in a restaurant and I still do tip as this is still expected. I just stopped going to restaurants, and I only end up there is someone drags me in.
I hate that whole tip cancer culture, which essentially exists to cheat me to think I’m paying less.
A surprising amount of those kiosks straight up abuse tipping culture simply as another form of payment. My wife has worked at two places where the money just goes to the owner and the employee never sees a tip. I’ve also been directly told the number of times that tips don’t go to the employees by the employees.
I don’t trust it. I only tip in cash if I do.
That should be illegal. Back in the day, if it was an owner run company, then the owner wouldn’t accept tips, even if you tried.
That’s illegal, FYI.
Could it be construed that you intended to tip the owners of the establishment rather than the employees?
Considering wage theft is the biggest kind of theft we have, I think it’s an unfortunate fact that many employers don’t particularly care what’s legal as long as you can’t practically retaliate.
No, cause no one thinks that way. Tipping has always been for the workers.
Most places have laws against tipping to employees that don’t interact with customers in transaction. So owners, cooks, and managers legally can’t get tips.
Edit: But those laws probably aren’t followed at some establishments
That does depend on the state though too. I worked in a restaurant where any tip on take-out/drive-thru/catering was spread among the kitchen staff. No manager can receive tips, but at least the staff preparing and packaging the food still have an opportunity to earn something extra. When I worked there, because of the tips, I earned an extra $2-$3 a shift.
it absolutely is but no one has the money to take an employer to court even if it’s a slam dunk case
So how this legal ?
It’s probably not. There might be an argument however by saying that technically you could’ve been interpreted as wanting to tip the business which includes the owner not necessarily the person working there.
It should be illegal though.
yep where I’m at they say they go to us but afaik we get the same amount either way. I hit no tip for customers now.
I had a cashier do that to me once. I couldn’t tell if she did me a favor or if she was thinking “I already know this guy won’t tip.”
almost 10/10 they were thinking the former. shits expensive rn, service workers don’t want people paying more if they don’t have to.
I’m wondering how American friends look at paying by card what you owe the restaurant while paying the tip in cash. Even though these slimy tip gadgets are invading Europe en masse, they’re still not nearly as ubiquitous as they are in the States. So my question is why isn’t it as common to saying you always tip 10% at the register and give the rest in cash so it goes to the server and not into the tip pool?
A waitress can get fired for getting caught withholding a cash tip from a tip pool if they have one. Hell, we even needed to have a law to prevent restuarants from taking the tips for themselves.
Bet this was at a pickup counter for a restaurant with no table service
I see them everywhere. The most insulting one was at sprinkles where I had to place order in the POS myself and the guy was just handing me a box from the shelf right behind him.
The most insulting one I’ve seen is at a self-serve convenience store in the Newark Airport. There is no staff that you ever interact with. Who does the tip go to? You for ringing yourself up?
I had a coffee vending machine in the airport asking for a tip. Incredible.
My job has an office in a multi-company building, and we have a self-serve lunch and snack station, and they ask for a tip.
Nobody is tipping that thing. They eventually removed the prompt
And that’s why I don’t feel guilty not tipping some places. What am I tipping for? Nothing.
I just got self-serve frozen yogurt yesterday, the only service interaction was the cashier telling me to put my cup on a scale and saying my total. What am I tipping for?
What am I tipping for?
The owners to pay their employees below poverty wages.
So no tip it is
I don’t support the idea of tipping. The responsibility shouldn’t fall on the consumer to ensure that employees are paid well — that competition is, and should be, between the employer and employee — tipping encourages employers to underpay their employees, thereby artificially reducing their overhead. It makes even less sense when one considers people who set their own rates, eg hair stylists — one should charge what they think their service is worth. If no one is willing to pay the price of the service, then the service isn’t worth the price — tips will just end up artificially inflating prices. Furthermore, it just rubs salt in the wound when taxes, ie VAT, are charged after tipping.
Christ these comments are horrifying
A few fuckers tried this on me at a restaurant in Greece last year.
The proper reaction is not to click “no tip” then cower in case someone judges you.
The proper reaction is to click “no tip” then get on every fuckin review site you can find and every social media site the restaurant is on, and leave 1-star reviews for spoiling my fucking lunch by begging for money. Put the price I pay on the menu, or fuck off.
I’ll tip a max of 10% if I want to. That’s generous where I am
Fuck that, your whole point of hospitality is to make me feel comfortable, not uncomfortable.
If you don’t do this, you’re the reason it still happens.
Incidentally, was back in Greece this year and only got harassed for a tip once. Anecdotal but hey, felt like I made a difference
Where the fuck has $28 come from on an amount of $26.17?
We like to be surprised by taxes at checkout when spending money rather than displaying the full price from the beginning.
It’s really dumb, and it’s almost certainly a psychological trick that increases sales.
I can’t resist posting this comic whenever tip screens are mentioned or shown.
I never tipped unless out at a restaurant and I received friendly service… but somehow I felt guilty or something when I wouldn’t tip the pizza delivery guy. Even though he was from the pizza place itself… (before doordash and stuff)
Years later I started noticing outwardly hostile behaviour if I didn’t tip. Bah.
I hate the look you get when you don’t do it. Which is my issue. My own. I know lots probably feel the same. I’m definitely trying to overcome that nonsense.
Tipping pizza delivery drivers is customary, and has been ever since I’ve been alive. They make around as much as wait staff in base-pay (minimum wage or less, depending on the state), and have to pay for their own car, gas, maintenance, etc. So, they depend on tips to survive. It’s stupid and exploitative, but that’s the way she goes.
Better than having to select custom tip and introducing the zero manually.
Shhhh, what a good idea. Keep it for yourself. Remember apply for patent, so you can collect royalty from those greedh capitalist
If the business is asking for a tip… It’s not just for the server. Its for the business
My main issue is that the default buttons start at 30%. I usually tip between 10-30% depending on service. With somewhere between 18-20% being standard.
10% be like, you didn’t really do a great job but I know they’re not paying you enough
15% is like, you did your job and didn’t screw up in any major way, but there was nothing notable about the experience.
Around 20% being more like, you did good, thanks!
And 30% is basically for being a mind reader that can predict my every need before I have it. Things like coming by with refills before ours are empty (for things with free refills), getting condiments ready/at the table either before, or while my food arrives, etc. Along with all the “expected” kindnesses and whatnot.
Unless my experience was genuinely negative, i pretty much always leave a tip.
50% is nuts. 30% as a minimum raises a lot of concerns for me, like the person programming the payment system is somehow getting a cut.
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You don’t need to do anything. Don’t let tip creep feel normalized. Keep tipping whatever you want. Let the next sucker do 30%
IMO, it needs to go the other way. Make tipping matter again by paying servers a decent wage.
I don’t mind tipping even at casual cafes and stuff because I used to work at a pizza place and the tips helped a lot. But if the LOWEST option is 30% I’m selecting no tip.
I find no need to tip for someone filling a cup of coffee and setting it on the counter. Maybe if they’re making some complicated drink but even then…come on
You can always do “custom tip” for the standard 20%. Fuck them for starting at 30, though.
for the standard 20%.
for the standard 0%.
The standard I grew up with was 15%. Excellent service got 20%. Subpar service got 10%. Horrible service got 0%.
And that was paid AFTER you actually had service. I’m not tipping up front when I don’t know what kind of food/service I’m getting. So many places are asking for a tip when you pay for a drink/meal that they just call out your name/number. You’re not even bringing me the food, you’re just making it and slapping it on a counter. What am I tipping for? You making the food? Isn’t that why you get paid? Servers that bring you food and take your orders I get because they’re being shafted on wages from stupid bullshit laws.
Honestly, when did the “standard” become 20 %?? I was used to the “standard” being 10 %, and then someone went around acting like it was 15, now 20… people do realise that the tips increase linearly with inflation when you keep the tip percentage constant… right?
