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    4 months ago

    Nuclear power in its current form is actively detrimental to grid stability, as it is produced in a few central locations and can not be realistically up and down regulated.

    The newly installed decentralised grid batteries in California have just proven that this model works much better.

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      4 months ago

      New nuclear plants can be regulated without problems. Old nuclear plants weren’t designated that way, although they can be improved to be able to do it, but this isn’t usually done as old plants will most likely be shutdown in the short term and investors don’t want to spend any money in them.

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        4 months ago

        No, hypothetical new modular plants might be better at regulation, but the recently build and still under construction ones are not.

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            As the article you linked also states, this feature is largely theoretical and for operational and economic reasons utility companies do not use it unless forced to. In France specifically, the high percentage of nuclear power makes it look like you can regulate it quite well, but that is an artifact of looking at total numbers that does not transfer to other grid situations where nuclear is only a small percentage of the overall production capacity. Generally speaking, nuclear and renewables are a bad match, and if you have to chose between them, renewables clearly win on both economics and scalability.

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              Sure, highly theorical:

              When combining the different capabilities, power variations of up to 10,000 MW could be absorbed by German NPPs in 2010. In France, with an average of 2 reactors out of 3 available for load variations, the overall power adjustment capacity of the nuclear fleet equates to 21,000 MW (i.e. equivalent to the output of 21 reactors) in less than 30 minutes.

              Of course they don’t use it unless force to, as the article states it’s cheaper to ramp down fossil fuels than nuclear. And this is a benefit, not a problem. But its also cheaper to ramp down nuclear than renewables, and this is also a benefit.

              Nuclear and renewables are a better match than fossil and renewables, and right now we are doing fossil and renewables. We’ve been decades asking for no nuclear in the hopes of getting only renewables and we’ve gotten fossil and renewables.