• boonhet@lemm.ee
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            3 months ago

            Incel pretty much already means that.

            Cringe moment is that when I was like 16 or 17, I too, identified with being an incel - I mean, I WAS INvoluntarily CELibate. So I browsed their subreddit for a while.

            I quickly realized that those were guys who were not just involuntarily celibate. They all hated women.

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              3 months ago

              It’s odd to me how you start by saying ‘incel = woman hater’, then showcase having the self awareness to recognize being involuntarily celibate without hating women, then loop back around to ‘incel = woman hater’.

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                3 months ago

                There’s nothing wrong with being a virgin, but the term incel has more connotations than “involuntary celebrate.”

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                    3 months ago

                    It’s the exact opposite of your point actually, thanks for playing, though

                    Edit: I can’t read, apparently

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                3 months ago

                It’s just that they’ve adopted the label.

                You could say you’re a fan of national socialism, but when you realize what people who refer to themselves as national socialists are, I don’t think you’ll want to use that label on yourself anymore.

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              3 months ago

              What’s the implication here? They’re an incel because they hate women or they hate women because they’re an incel?

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                3 months ago

                The first one. There are a few exceptions, but overwhelmingly, incels are dudes who act like they are owed sex and call women “females” and then are surprised when none want to sleep with them

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                  3 months ago

                  For one thing, there are plenty of female incels. For another, every male incel I’ve met does not hate women. I game online and have quite a few of them for friends. I think that conflating ‘incel’ and ‘hates women’ is morally repugnant.

                  The English language actually has the perfect word for what you want to say, and that’s ‘mysogynist’. Use your words correctly.