• 14th_cylon@lemm.eeEnglish
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    3 months ago

    and if you want to use public money on it, then the goal has to be to help them get back to society, to which dealing with problematic behavioral patterns, like substance abuse, is a necessity…

        • Maggoty@lemmy.worldEnglish
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          3 months ago

          You let them continue until they can get a spot in a medical setting where they can safely withdraw.

          • 14th_cylon@lemm.eeEnglish
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            3 months ago

            1. that safe setting may very well be the shelter we are talking about

            2. you are steering away from subject. it is absolutely fair to tell them “being homeless and nuisance in the street is from now on illegal. either you want help to get back to society and then you will accept the help with its terms - you are really not in a position to make demands - or you can move to some unabomber cabin in the middle of nowhere, and there you can do whatever you want”

            • Maggoty@lemmy.worldEnglish
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              3 months ago

              So you want to create an alternate society in the wilds?

              Well that’s one I haven’t thought about since the last time I read Brave New World and thought, good thing we’d never do that.

                • Maggoty@lemmy.worldEnglish
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                  3 months ago

                  it is absolutely fair to tell them "being homeless and nuisance in the street is from now on illegal. either you want help to get back to society and then you will accept the help with its terms - you are really not in a position to make demands - or you can move to some unabomber cabin in the middle of nowhere, and there you can do whatever you want

                  This you?