Trump can have one more felony, as a treat

  • themeatbridge@lemmy.world
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    21 days ago

    Honestly, those families of fallen soldiers can go fuck themselves. They dishonor the memory of their children that made the ultimate sacrifice for this country. They don’t get to invite Trump to wipe his ass all over the graves of soldiers. Their children deserve respect, but they deserve scorn.

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      21 days ago

      Oh, it’s even worse than that. My understanding is that the families that invited him are specifically families of soldiers who died during the pullout from Afghanistan. Y’know, the pullout that Trump announced out of the blue with zero prep work in the last year of his presidency and dumped on Biden’s lap. They are celebrating the man directly responsible for their kids’ deaths.

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        20 days ago

        Democrats desperately need to impose a nationwide public school curriculum if/when they get control. This shit needs to stop, and it’s going to take literal decades to correctly educate the next generation…

        Lately I have started to grasp why nations, in the past, have imposed “re-education” upon their adult citizens… Obviously it can easily be misused, but I feel like it is exactly what this country needs. And it will never happen.

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      21 days ago

      Those children made " the ultimate sacrifice " to expand and maintain American imperialism and violence worldwide. Just because we hate trump there is no reason to defend the American empire and its willing enforcers.

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        21 days ago

        Ok, I’m not going to debate that with you. I don’t know these kids, their motivations, their missions, or how they lived and died. I’m talking about every body laid to rest in Arlington, and far too many that still lay where they fell, all of the soldiers, living and dead, are deserving of a certain modicum of reapect. They deserve to not be used as props in a campaign photo. Their families deserve to not see their tombstones used as an arm rest in a photo op.

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          21 days ago

          I would be horrified if someone asked to visit my parents’ grave for a photo op. I can barely go there without breaking down. My family’s grief is private.

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        21 days ago

        Oh yes all those soldiers from, (checks notes), fighting the Nazis and Japanese.

        Yeah them. Horrible people, the absolute worst amiright?

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          21 days ago

          This incident was with the parents of people in section 60 specifically for people dying post 9-11 “War on terror” soldiers in other words. Stop obfuscating.

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            21 days ago

            Oh okay the ones who got rid of Saddam and helped Iraq hold free and fair elections?

            Those guys?

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              21 days ago

              Oh you are an Iraq war defender I’m not going to bother getting into an argument with you it’s not worth it to argue with someone literally defending the Iraq war as bringing “Democracy” to Iraq with all the current information freely available about the true motives and the lists of war crimes.

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                21 days ago

                Hey you’re talking about the soldiers. The guys who actually went over there. If you want to talk about Bush then talk about Bush. And the “list of war crimes” is just that, a list with a fraction of the people who served in Iraq.

                And yeah I’m going to talk about bringing democracy back to Iraq. Because that’s exactly what happened. Are you going to try and tell us they weren’t the first free and fair elections since Saddam seized power?

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                  Let me guess, you were there and killed a bunch of people, and this is what you have to tell yourself in order to make it day to day.

                  That sucks. But if you’re going to post publicly defending the Iraq War, then you better be ready for criticism.

  • some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org
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    21 days ago

    “For a despicable individual to physically prevent President Trump’s team from accompanying him to this solemn event is a disgrace and does not deserve to represent the hollowed [sic] grounds of Arlington National Cemetery. Whoever this individual is spreading these lies are dishonoring the men and women of our armed forces, and they are disrespecting everyone who paid the price for defending our country,” LaCivita continued.

    Wow. Just a fucking gross response. Every chance they get they try to insult the person who was doing their job.

    “We had given our approval for President Trump’s official videographer and photographer to attend the event, ensuring these sacred moments of remembrance were respectfully captured and so we can cherish these memories forever,” the families said.

    His idiot followers would think their invitation bests federal laws.

    A different article said that the reason the beleaguered employee wasn’t pressing charges was fear of harassment by his sycophants. His toadies make life hell for descent people, thus shielding him from repercussions. It’s time to put this man out of the spotlight so the wheels of justice can run him over.

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      It’s sobering to think about how far US politics has fallen since I’ve had the power to vote. There was a time that I can still remember, where something like this would do more than kill a campaign. Republicans would be condemning their own candidate, and the candidate’s PR team would be working overtime putting out, “we apologize for the misunderstanding and meant no disrespect to the fallen soldiers” statements to try to quell the backlash.

      Nowadays? Nope. They double and triple down, and their base loves it. I hate this so much.

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        I cast my first vote in 1990. It was the first and last time I ever voted for a Republican. Please forgive me. I was eighteen and raised under Reagan. I didn’t yet know better.

        Anywho, I concur with your assessment. We’ve fallen so very far.

    • phoneymouse@lemmy.world
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      21 days ago

      Not only that — what is the penalty for violating Section 60?

      The army acts like the employee being assaulted was the only issue.

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    20 days ago

    I thought it was an Onion article!

    What happened to all troops that die in service being losers?

    He really is a disgusting twat.

  • foggy@lemmy.world
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    21 days ago

    I’m so glad he pissed off the army before trying to stage his second coup.

    Good luck asshat.

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      21 days ago

      The US military is aggressively non-political. Don’t count on them to do anything as long as the civilian institutions do nothing.

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        21 days ago

        That’s not the point. The Military is no longer a tool he could use. Staying neutral unless things get really bad is a good thing. He’s already tried to use the military against protestors. (And the military told him to pound sand)

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          20 days ago

          Am I crazy? I distinctly remember a military helicopter hovering quite low over protesters in a city and that very much didn’t feel like them telling trump to ‘pound sand’

          Yeah, not crazy: https://www.cnn.com/2021/05/28/politics/pentagon-national-guard-helicopter-dc-protests/index.html

          I appreciate the army’s attempts at trying to stay neutral but from my perspective they were already complicit in the trump regime and I have no faith that they would be any different if he gets another shot.

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            You’re not crazy. The thing is there’s a difference between the national guard and the regular army. The national guard is used to control protests all the time by state governors. In D.C. Trump gets to act as that governor. What Trump wanted was a regular army Infantry division with lethal weapons. The Chairman of the Joint Chiefs actually got into a shouting match with Trump over the issue.

            When he couldn’t have that toy he tried to tell the National Guard to use live ammo without actually ordering it. He told them to use “all available means” to protect federal property. The National Guard however has trained extensively against using live ammo in protests since May 4, 1970. So they used every non-lethal method they knew, including the down wash of their medevac helicopters. Which the Pentagon later said not to do again as they consider that to be against the regulations for medevac helicopters.

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            Not American, I thought national guard and army are different because the national guard do stuff like security at disaster sites and riots which the army aren’t allowed to?

    • Optional@lemmy.world
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      21 days ago

      He pissed off the 60% of the army who already knew what a disgusting failure of a human he is.

  • RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world
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    21 days ago

    Everyone posting quotes from the trump side, so here’s what the Army said:

    “This incident was unfortunate, and it is also unfortunate that the ANC employee and her professionalism has been unfairly attacked. ANC is a national shrine to the honored dead of the Armed Forces, and its dedicated staff will continue to ensure public ceremonies are conducted with the dignity and respect the nation’s fallen deserve,” the statement said.

    So the Army sided with the people at the cemetery, and tge following paragraphs indicate the Pentagon does as well.

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      Barely… They don’t even condemn the people who did it. They say it was “unfortunate.” Give me a fucking break.

      Imagine if this was a Democrat.

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        The US military is very apolitical. They don’t get involved with campaigns or politics. I think it may actually be illegal for an active serviceman to make statements with any political leanings. Certainly in uniform I think.

        So for them to say this much is actually a big deal.

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          Agreed. It even says in the article that the army stays out of politics and such a statement was a very rare occurrence. So we can infer the fact that they made a statement at all carries quite a bit of weight.

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            Actually, surprisingly not badly. US generals like Milley took precautions to prevent Trump from doing even more disastrous things. Military leadership is generally respectable.

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    The US Army published a measured response to the implicated poor behavior of an on duty servicewoman at ANC.

    The Army would very much object to this being categorized as “against” Trump. Rather in defense of their service members and their correct actions.

    The Army is careful not to overextend itself on political rhetoric and invite too much politics directly.

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      Yeah for them to say this much is a big deal considering they like to stay out of this stuff. It’s pretty much a harsh repudiation coming from them.

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    I’m just exhausted at this point. Nothing he does phases me anymore. Just gotta say my piece at the ballot box and hope for the best

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      I’m actually impressed a former president currently running for reelection managed to fuck up pandering to the military so bad the Army called him out for it.

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      Yeah I’m so fucking tired of watching him break federal law out in the open with zero consequences over and over and over and over

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      Normalization of this shit is how the fascists get a foothold. In this very story we see that the victim is not pressing charges because she is afraid of MAGAfash. The absolute minimum thing you can do is stay angry. Enjoy passive opposition while it is still an option.