They’ve only been the most popular instance for like 3 days and the mods there are already power tripping.
Unfortunately, “Defederating” is the same as “Banning yourself from everybody else”, so I trust that people will vote with their (virtual) feet and move to instances with a more diverse set of federations.
They are not power tripping, if you’ve read their posts you’d know that they have a very concrete view of the story of community they want to build and unfortunately their manpower and moderation tools just don’t allow them to stick to it while staying federated with rapidly growing communities.
They only defederated temporarily from two instances. BeeHaw users still have access to the majority of other instances, including kbin. Not to mention they’re already working on a way to refederate with lemmy.world and sh.itjust.works. Go on their page, they’ve been nothing but transparent and open to suggestion. This “drama” is pointless
I know that, my point is that they don’t have the tools to do anything other than defederation right now.
If any users from other instances than those two act in the same way and they happen to be from other big instances, they’d have to defederate those too, because they have no other tools available.
And they knew they won’t have other tools availalbe when they created their instance, so they should’ve created such a platform in a place where they actualy had the tools to run it like they want.
Which would’ve been a classical forum in my view.
Like they want to have a community where they can proactively prevent people from posting offensive things.
That would be the ideal case for a forum where you have a manual registration proccess like they have now here. Because here their registration process doesn’t help when you can just comment from another instance.
I disagree. The advantage of the Fediverse is finding people who wanna cultivate a similar internet experience as you. I can still comment on Beehaw because I’m on a small well-moderated platform.
And had you been on an instance that was defederated you’d have to create another account to acces their community, just like a separate forum, which I exaplained in the other post would be the better choice.
Because it doesn’t make sense to have that kind of manual approval registration system aimed to only have specific users in the community that share their values, so they clearly want to crontrol who can and cannot post there… and then being on a plattform where users can just join another instance or even create an instance for their own and then post what they want on beehaw and the only way to prevent this would be proactively blocking all other instances and working with a whitelist instead.
They’ve only been the most popular instance for like 3 days and the mods there are already power tripping.
Unfortunately, “Defederating” is the same as “Banning yourself from everybody else”, so I trust that people will vote with their (virtual) feet and move to instances with a more diverse set of federations.
They are not power tripping, if you’ve read their posts you’d know that they have a very concrete view of the story of community they want to build and unfortunately their manpower and moderation tools just don’t allow them to stick to it while staying federated with rapidly growing communities.
Which is why I’ll say it again and again, the fediverse might’ve been the wrong choice for building a community like they want
They only defederated temporarily from two instances. BeeHaw users still have access to the majority of other instances, including kbin. Not to mention they’re already working on a way to refederate with lemmy.world and sh.itjust.works. Go on their page, they’ve been nothing but transparent and open to suggestion. This “drama” is pointless
I know that, my point is that they don’t have the tools to do anything other than defederation right now.
If any users from other instances than those two act in the same way and they happen to be from other big instances, they’d have to defederate those too, because they have no other tools available.
And they knew they won’t have other tools availalbe when they created their instance, so they should’ve created such a platform in a place where they actualy had the tools to run it like they want.
Which would’ve been a classical forum in my view.
Like they want to have a community where they can proactively prevent people from posting offensive things.
That would be the ideal case for a forum where you have a manual registration proccess like they have now here. Because here their registration process doesn’t help when you can just comment from another instance.
I disagree. The advantage of the Fediverse is finding people who wanna cultivate a similar internet experience as you. I can still comment on Beehaw because I’m on a small well-moderated platform.
And had you been on an instance that was defederated you’d have to create another account to acces their community, just like a separate forum, which I exaplained in the other post would be the better choice.
Because it doesn’t make sense to have that kind of manual approval registration system aimed to only have specific users in the community that share their values, so they clearly want to crontrol who can and cannot post there… and then being on a plattform where users can just join another instance or even create an instance for their own and then post what they want on beehaw and the only way to prevent this would be proactively blocking all other instances and working with a whitelist instead.
Agreed