Have they been supported by AIPAC? Surely, but them personally getting a check from a foreign lobby that is mysteriously allowed to exist in US politics is not a good explanation for what is going on. Israel serves a purpose extending America’s power in the Middle East and terrorizing its rivals. If Israel was against America’s interests in the region, AIPAC wouldn’t exist and America’s lavish cooperation with Israel would not be happening.
True. It’s all related to capitalism. But the campaign money is the real thing that keeps politicians (some of whom actually do care about doing the right thing), from doing the right thing.
Do it on the way out the door erase all the senile old fuck news with ’ I know I’m not supposed to say this but seriously fuck Israel’ Biden said WHAT news
Not sure why lemmy liberals are assuming Harris and Biden are secretly against Israel, it’s going to be a big disappointment for you all if the Democrats win again and nothing changes.
It’s called Stockholm Syndrome: people without options often end up genuinelly believing that the guy who tortures them only twice a week rather than daily is “deep down a good guy” and even “is our friend”.
I agree with her there. Hamas is a terrorist organization and they are pieces of shit too. They’re no longer “freedom fighters” as soon as they are killing unarmed women and children.
Dude, setting aside what we think of Hamas, I wasn’t talking about Hamas, I was talking about people in America protesting against genocide being branded as terrorist sympathizers.
Are you not aware that the specific protestors she was responding to were actually flying Hamas flag and spray painting pro-Hamas messages on statues and things. It was bad.
Aside from the fact that she’s clearly using it as an opportunity to make it look like the entire protest (and perhaps all pro-Palestine protest) took such a tact
pro-Hamas messages
If you mean “From the river to the sea” I swear to God
He’ll never do it. Neither will Kamala. They get too much money from the Israeli lobby.
lol @ America. Democracy? No. We let corporations and foreign leaders buy our elections.
But also: Democrats: “we need to save amerikkka 😭😭😭”
Yeah, we’re constantly on the edge of allowing this place to fall into full on fascist dictatorship. It fucking sucks.
Laugh all you want. At least you live in a place where your government is not constantly teetering on the edge.
Have they been supported by AIPAC? Surely, but them personally getting a check from a foreign lobby that is mysteriously allowed to exist in US politics is not a good explanation for what is going on. Israel serves a purpose extending America’s power in the Middle East and terrorizing its rivals. If Israel was against America’s interests in the region, AIPAC wouldn’t exist and America’s lavish cooperation with Israel would not be happening.
True. It’s all related to capitalism. But the campaign money is the real thing that keeps politicians (some of whom actually do care about doing the right thing), from doing the right thing.
Do it on the way out the door erase all the senile old fuck news with ’ I know I’m not supposed to say this but seriously fuck Israel’ Biden said WHAT news
Not sure why lemmy liberals are assuming Harris and Biden are secretly against Israel, it’s going to be a big disappointment for you all if the Democrats win again and nothing changes.
When you’re voting in a one-party system with two right wings, nothing changing is the expected outsome.
It’s called Stockholm Syndrome: people without options often end up genuinelly believing that the guy who tortures them only twice a week rather than daily is “deep down a good guy” and even “is our friend”.
I think Harris knows what’s up. But she also knows that she has to play the game.
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2024/07/25/statement-by-vice-president-kamala-harris-3/
She “knows what’s up,” and has self-consciously chosen to side with genocide, branding all of its opponents terrorists or terrorist sympathizers.
I agree with her there. Hamas is a terrorist organization and they are pieces of shit too. They’re no longer “freedom fighters” as soon as they are killing unarmed women and children.
Dude, setting aside what we think of Hamas, I wasn’t talking about Hamas, I was talking about people in America protesting against genocide being branded as terrorist sympathizers.
Are you not aware that the specific protestors she was responding to were actually flying Hamas flag and spray painting pro-Hamas messages on statues and things. It was bad.
Aside from the fact that she’s clearly using it as an opportunity to make it look like the entire protest (and perhaps all pro-Palestine protest) took such a tact
If you mean “From the river to the sea” I swear to God