• the_toast_is_gone@lemmy.world
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    1 month ago

    Unfortunately for the gunmen in this example, their guns will wear and tear. A crucial part or two will fail and not be replaceable. Then their entire strategy of “kill everyone else” will fall apart. And that’s aside from the fact that human societies have always flourished because we have worked with rather than against each other.

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      Unfortunately for the gunmen in this example, their guns will wear and tear.

      Their guns will be worthless long before they wear out. They are going to run out of ammo eventually. None of these folks are capable of manufacturing modern nitrocellulose gun powder or primer caps necessary to reload their fancy rifles and handguns. I don’t even see them taking a more pragmatic path of learning how to make old school black powder for muzzle loaders which they could conceivable made in their bunkers. Admittedly, I’m on the tree-hugger/equality side and don’t even own a gun. These are just my observations from outside their group.

      Were these preppers more honest with themselves, there would be another area they would overlap with many on the far left: Cosplay.

      And that’s aside from the fact that human societies have always flourished because we have worked with rather than against each other.

      100% agree. Our survival as a species has always depended on us working together.

      • TehWorld@lemmy.world
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        I have acquaintances that would definitely be considered classic preppers. One told me that he has 10k plus (each!) of rounds for multiple calibers of weapons, and a years worth of food for each of his family members in a “bunker” on his property. It’d take a LONG time to burn through that many rounds.

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          Ammo starts to degrade after about 10-20 years assuming your storing it well. Which is less likely to be true in the “end times”. 2 decades is a long time but depending on your age it’s not a life time, and firing damaged ammo can be dangerous.

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            1 month ago

            Very true. I get the feeling that he cycles through a lot of rounds, but not a close enough friend to have shot on his land more than once.

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          1 month ago

          Fire (and more importantly, smoke) is a powerful tool. Displace enough air and people start either getting away or dropping.

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        1 month ago

        Most people like this that I’ve ever met have several thousand rounds of ammunition. They’ll run out, but it will take a while.

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        1 month ago

        None of these folks are capable of manufacturing modern nitrocellulose gun powder or primer caps necessary to reload their fancy rifles and handguns.

        This gave me a thought, would having equipment for ammonia and other chemicals (for fertiliser as well as explosives) be useful for preppers?

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      True, but remember they don’t think that way, because it messes up their fantasy.

      Have you heard the nonsense the owner of Reddit spouts constantly? About how he was so good at hoarding that he’ll have a private army and slaves and people will come crawling on their knees to serve him for a little food and he’ll be a king? These losers all think like that, and facts like tools break and bullets run out and you have to cast more and get the supplies to do so just ruins their dreams of being an unstoppable tyrant.

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        1 month ago

        Also just praetorian shit happens. Having resources is insufficient, your guards have to like you or fear the consequences of banding together to kill you

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          1 month ago

          Oh, they have a plan for that too. Making them all wear shock collars and holding their families hostage.

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        1 month ago

        That’s what they say.

        What they think is all the underaged girls will come running to willing beg to do anything for protection.

        That’s the true prepper fantasy, it’s just a middle age crisis made manifest.