• Wild Bill@midwest.social
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    3 days ago

    I thought everyone knew this. Tasks based on sex were not so prevalent until high cultures formed and people started settling down instead of being nomadic.

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      3 days ago

      Not just nomadic. Many sedentary societies lack strong gender divisions in labor as well.

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      2 days ago

      Men definitely did more hunting then woman in most of human history lmao you are insane

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          Men are faster and stronger. Men don’t spend a good portion of their lives growing children and breastfeeding them. So more free time to hunt. Men’s eyesight is literally better at picking up motion than woman’s and men have better reflex’s and hand eye coordination. Men outperform woman in almost all aspents of what it takes to be a great hunter back in the early human days.

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            pretty much every study of these sort of things show that there is very little difference in performance between women and men - maybe on the scale of 5%. There is more difference between members of the group than there is between the genders. so it didn’t really make much difference when it came to deciding who should do what.

            ultimately, it doesn’t matter, the difference is so slight that it was basically not noticeable, if it even did exist.

            all modern anthropological research demonstrates that women and men pretty much did an equal share of all tasks, including hunting and raising children. if your masculinity can’t handle that fact then I’d recommend therapy.

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              You really like that therapy line huh. Look there is a reason we have womans and men’s divisions in sports. Men would destroy the woman at almost all sports. If your fragile femininity cannot handle that, I recommend therapy. This has nothing to do with my masculinity and everything to with science and results. Sorry it doesn’t work out the way you want it to. Again. Therapy.

              Edit: word

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                Actually, the history of why women divisions arose in sports is far more nuanced than you seem to believe. The main reasons for doing so were primarily rooted in sexism. Historical records show that women were able to compete with, and win against, men in sporting events during the early middle ages.

                Anyways, I see there’s no reasoning with you, so I hope you have a pleasant evening

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                  What are you even looking at records from the middle ages for? Humans haven’t changed that much since then lmao. All we have to do is look at records from today. And guess what? Across the board men perform at a way higher level in almost all sports and physical activities. What makes you think the reason for different divisions was sexism? if the woman could compete with the men society would let them. Especially nowadays, why don’t you see men’s vs woman’s hockey on TV? Because it would be boring, the men would beat the woman everytime it wouldn’t even be fair. This is a really hard pill for you to swallow isn’t it?

                  And looking at you comment history it doesn’t look like you have any personal experience being athletic in the slightest, let alone being near the top in a given sport. You are disabled and can’t stand without sever pain. I have been an athlete my entire life and so have my sisters. Guess what? I can destroy every one of my sisters at every sport and it’s not even close. And they aren’t couch slobs, they play sports at a very high level, they just play against other woman. They know they don’t stand a chance against the men. We’re two very different things when it comes to physical ability.

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      You can downvote me and science, but wake me up if you come up with a real argument disputing the entire field of endocrinology, molecular biology, and the rest of biology by extension. Not to mention archeology and anthropology.

      At the very simplest way to understand, you do know the difference between testosterone and estrogen, and their biological mechanisms, correct? Rhetorical.

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        It’s the anthropology that proves the claim.

        Tell us more about your opinions on high school biology and how no woman ever hunted as much as men in her culture.

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          Edit: edited out my petty comment directed towards a miscommunication that is now resolved.

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              (I thought) the meme implies all women. Oh I understand your other comment now. My comment is only valid if the meme implied all women, and i had no malicious intent.

              If reading as “some”, then yes I fully agree. I guess it depends who is reading it, and I’m assuming it was written that way by design, to get people like us to fight over a misunderstanding.

              Sending good vibes🤙

              Edit: (I thought)

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      Tasks based on sex were not so prevalent until high cultures formed…

      Like being pregnant and giving birth (as many times as possible), breastfeeding, and raising those same infants while the men are doing tasks that are unfeasible for pregnant breastfeeding women taking care of infants?, like hunting, building shelters and going to war, among other things? (Which some women did, but the majority did not)

      Oh, ya ya, for sure. A lot of people in this thread seem to be sharing the same anti-anthropology delusion. Which is very concerning but not surprising in the age of misinformation. More culture-war BS.

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        Anthropology tends to support the fact that women and men pretty much all had equal share of pretty much every task in the palaeolithic and neolithic eras.

        You shouldn’t just reject scientific advances because it goes against what you learned at school. What you learned was wrong. Science adapts based on new evidence. You can too.

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          Anthropology tends to support the fact that women and men pretty much all had equal share of pretty much every task

          Source?

          You shouldn’t just reject scientific advances because they go against what you learned at school. What you learned was wrong. Science adapts based on new evidence. You can too.

          Some heavy projection there, drake. Maybe you should stick to the science. I hope you know that women have pregnancies and feeding the babies with their teats to deal with, along with needing someone to take care of the young children, which incapacitated them from most physically demanding tasks, like hunting or going to war. I’m not talking about non-pregnant, able-bodied women that weren’t tasked with taking care of children, which were an indisputable minority.

          Your delusions of pregnant teet-feeding women equally going to hunt and to war in your fantasy have no place here. Be real for one second. ~9 months pregnant + years of raising just the first one, immediately crosses out your claim (and you dont even need to look at the science for that one, i hope). There’s a reason one of the two sexes has testosterone as their primary sex hormone and androgen, and the other has estrogen as their primary.

          I suggest taking an endocrinology, archeology and anthropology class, instead of trumping your arguments with nonsense.