“but we need agriculture to vote”. That’s what I hear, that they’d be downed out of we went off pure population. Except, the population IS being drowned out by a few very conservative states right now who have populations of a fraction of that of our cities, and now they want to implement things that actively hurt our cities simply because they don’t like them.
Fine we still need a system that has some balance, but right now I’d hardly say there’s a balance at all
Rural people make up 20% of the US population. They SHOULD be drowned out by the other 80%, or putting it less antagonistically they should have their fair share of influence, which is 20%. The Senate is a giant thumb on the scale that gives rural voter representation a stranglehold on the government. Talkin’ to you, Moscow Mitch.
And I’m okay with it being disproportionate because they also run a good chunk of our agriculture and do have a good chunk of land, but the scales are definitely too too far . They shouldn’t be drowning out 80% of our population just because they have a lot of space.
This is also just neglecting the value that the rest provide
For example, what about the people who make the farming machines? And then to take it further what about them making software for it? What about the people making software to make software? What about the ones making the parts to make the machines? And so on
We don’t live in a vacuum anymore. You don’t do farming with just a few simple tools, and farmers aren’t self sufficient, they participate in society and use all the other society stuff too
Trying to weight voted by provided value gets super complicated and messy fast, especially if you start including stuff like disabilities and such. Is this really the way to go?
Under our current system, “weight by value” just means that we are actually instantiating an olligarchy. I mean we already are, but that would be full blown mask off.
Or what, they’ll stop producing food? States that are big on financial companies could claim they deserve more representation because they finance everybody else. Or states with a lot of military because they pertect Freedum. Etc. Nope, you’re a citizen, you get equal representation.
Nah fuck them farmers. We live under capitalism, let that shit system ride. If we defund the farmers, either new farmers take their place or we starve and capitalism collapses. Both of these seem like net positives
“but we need agriculture to vote”. That’s what I hear, that they’d be downed out of we went off pure population. Except, the population IS being drowned out by a few very conservative states right now who have populations of a fraction of that of our cities, and now they want to implement things that actively hurt our cities simply because they don’t like them.
Fine we still need a system that has some balance, but right now I’d hardly say there’s a balance at all
Rural people make up 20% of the US population. They SHOULD be drowned out by the other 80%, or putting it less antagonistically they should have their fair share of influence, which is 20%. The Senate is a giant thumb on the scale that gives rural voter representation a stranglehold on the government. Talkin’ to you, Moscow Mitch.
And I’m okay with it being disproportionate because they also run a good chunk of our agriculture and do have a good chunk of land, but the scales are definitely too too far . They shouldn’t be drowning out 80% of our population just because they have a lot of space.
This is also just neglecting the value that the rest provide
For example, what about the people who make the farming machines? And then to take it further what about them making software for it? What about the people making software to make software? What about the ones making the parts to make the machines? And so on
We don’t live in a vacuum anymore. You don’t do farming with just a few simple tools, and farmers aren’t self sufficient, they participate in society and use all the other society stuff too
Trying to weight voted by provided value gets super complicated and messy fast, especially if you start including stuff like disabilities and such. Is this really the way to go?
Under our current system, “weight by value” just means that we are actually instantiating an olligarchy. I mean we already are, but that would be full blown mask off.
Or what, they’ll stop producing food? States that are big on financial companies could claim they deserve more representation because they finance everybody else. Or states with a lot of military because they pertect Freedum. Etc. Nope, you’re a citizen, you get equal representation.
Generally people like to eat. AG is going to be safe.
Nah fuck them farmers. We live under capitalism, let that shit system ride. If we defund the farmers, either new farmers take their place or we starve and capitalism collapses. Both of these seem like net positives