I hope all the people that refused to vote democrat over the Palestinian genocide take full responsibility and ownership for everything that follows with Trump’s foreign policy. They approved of and enabled this.
Narrator: They would not take responsibility for their actions nor acknowledge their complicity in furthering human suffering. In fact, they would use their experience in mental gymnastics honed in defending their patronage of Chick-fil-A, Hobby Lobby, and that local coffee shop that advertises that they specifically don’t use fair trade beans and whose owner cruises around town in a replica of the General Lee from The Dukes of Hazzard, adorned with a bumper sticker that reads:
“The owner of this vehicle has never seen the popular TV Show ‘The Dukes of Hazzard’ or any of its cinematic adaptations and really just unironically likes the Confederate Battle Flag and the ideals of human slavery that it represents. How the hell are we going to fit this whole statement on a bumper sticker? Wait. You’re not typing that out too are you? You know what, fuck it. They paid up front and this gag is just getting too long without adding much in the way of humor to the situation. Just ship it.”
But didn’t you hear! Trump single-handedly managed to get a ceasefire deal with Israel and HAMAS signed.
Clearly something Genocide Joe refused to do!
(The Biden administration have been working on a ceasefire deal for months. Now the elections in the West are over, there is no need for the war to continue.)
Well you’re very charning but as a “dumb idiot” I don’t understand who you are suggesting should bomb whom. The American voters should bomb their own country instead of voting for either genocide-supporting candidate? Is that what you mean?
For what it’s worth, I think the Democrats showed they’d rather let the USA go fascist than oppose Israel’s genocide, and that’s pretty damning for their party. Still, now it’s genocide support plus fascism. There were no good electoral options.
Nope. There was no genocide-free option. The Democratic Party failed catastrophically; it’s on them, not those who abstained from voting for garbage vs garbage.
Expecting voters to just pick the lesser of two evils forever is how we allow the rich and those with a big platform to slowly shift both parties’ politics in their favour. Some people see this zero-sum game for what it is and refuse to partake (vote). The only way to fix this at this point is by revolting.
But we have had a pretty similar experience with the 2 dominant political parties here in the UK, albeit to a smaller extent. I cancelled my Labour Party membership back in 2019, when I realised they’d rebranded from actually representing working people, to just being the Tories sugarcoated in red. They are not a viable alternative to the Tories, and neither offer the much-needed change our declining society needs.
Thankfully, we do have other parties on our ballots, so I didn’t have to abstain, and voted Lib Dem last year. But if we did have a strict two-party system, and that was the state of it, you can bet that I wouldn’t bother with the ballot and would be out demonstrating on the streets.
Yeah, the Red Tory label was used just like Genocide Joe over here to suppress the vote among those incapable of making nuanced decisions. And it worked here in the UK just as well as it did in the US.
to suppress the vote among those incapable of making nuanced decisions. And it worked here in the UK just as well as it did in the US.
Except that we currently have a Labour Government? Did you also miss the part where I said I voted anyway?
I don’t have to vote for anyone I don’t agree with. I also don’t have to pick “the lesser of 2/3/4/whatever evils” because, to me, that is falling for the oligarchs’ trap. If you want to get mad at somebody, get mad at those who voted for the Tories here, or the Republicans in the US. They’re to blame, not the left who are divided by the fact that nobody in politics wants to represent their collective interests.
Frankly, if you think that I am morally compelled to vote for Labour, even when I disagree with their fascist rhetoric, then you are licking the boots of a broken institution.
Indeed, they want us to think it’s a left vs right situation so that we’re busy fighting ourselves when really it’s the oligarchy vs the people. We need to stop being distracted by the circus.
Rioting, instead of voting for one of both agents planted by the oligarchs. The illusion of democracy really isn’t worth defending to the death like this.
Why are you so angry at another leftist? Save some of that for the literal MAGAs.
Yeah you cant expect people to vote for the lesser evil 3 times in a row. The democrats won and had 4 years to enact drastic enough changes to not be called “the lesser evil” anymore, but they didnt. Now they have to deal with the consequences of their own inaction.
There’s no possibility of democracy delivering perfect candidates. So you are always going to be voting for the lesser evil if you expect a candidate to be elected. But that’s fine, don’t participate, it might pollute your pristine moral purity. Just stay the fuck out of the way when the time comes.
So you decided to vote for the greater evil to teach the lesser evil a lesson? That’s a galaxy brain move there.
Before you decide to say something stupid about voting third party, in the reality we live in if you don’t vote for major party candidate A you’re helping major party candidate B win. It’s not an ideal system, but unfortunately reality is often not ideal.
I do not think it is fair to equate someone who abstained from voting due to dissatisfaction with both candidates to a literal MAGA who voted Trump. The latter are the ones who directly led to this outcome; the former just didn’t help it.
I hope all the people that refused to vote democrat over the Palestinian genocide take full responsibility and ownership for everything that follows with Trump’s foreign policy. They approved of and enabled this.
Narrator: They would not take responsibility for their actions nor acknowledge their complicity in furthering human suffering. In fact, they would use their experience in mental gymnastics honed in defending their patronage of Chick-fil-A, Hobby Lobby, and that local coffee shop that advertises that they specifically don’t use fair trade beans and whose owner cruises around town in a replica of the General Lee from The Dukes of Hazzard, adorned with a bumper sticker that reads:
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Trump was always at least as enthusiastic for the genocide as Biden.
Trump Says He Would Let Netanyahu Finish the Job in Gaza, Says ‘Biden Is So Bad for Israel’
https://archive.is/3B6xq
Which is why the dickheads who enabled him (but claimed to support Palestine ) are dickheads
But didn’t you hear! Trump single-handedly managed to get a ceasefire deal with Israel and HAMAS signed.
Clearly something Genocide Joe refused to do!
(The Biden administration have been working on a ceasefire deal for months. Now the elections in the West are over, there is no need for the war to continue.)
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Well you’re very charning but as a “dumb idiot” I don’t understand who you are suggesting should bomb whom. The American voters should bomb their own country instead of voting for either genocide-supporting candidate? Is that what you mean?
For what it’s worth, I think the Democrats showed they’d rather let the USA go fascist than oppose Israel’s genocide, and that’s pretty damning for their party. Still, now it’s genocide support plus fascism. There were no good electoral options.
They won’t.
You’re gonna see something like “Joe was nowhere near as bad but still imperfect so we either begged for or allowed Trump to happen to pwn the Dems”.
Somehow, to them, that means it’s still Biden’s fault for their voting for Trump.
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I see the democrats are still blaming everyone but themselves for 20mill of them staying home.
Nope. There was no genocide-free option. The Democratic Party failed catastrophically; it’s on them, not those who abstained from voting for garbage vs garbage.
Expecting voters to just pick the lesser of two evils forever is how we allow the rich and those with a big platform to slowly shift both parties’ politics in their favour. Some people see this zero-sum game for what it is and refuse to partake (vote). The only way to fix this at this point is by revolting.
Soo… Are you gonna help cause a revolt?
They’ll quibble about some minor aspect of messaging and will stay home.
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I am not American or in the USA, so no.
But we have had a pretty similar experience with the 2 dominant political parties here in the UK, albeit to a smaller extent. I cancelled my Labour Party membership back in 2019, when I realised they’d rebranded from actually representing working people, to just being the Tories sugarcoated in red. They are not a viable alternative to the Tories, and neither offer the much-needed change our declining society needs.
Thankfully, we do have other parties on our ballots, so I didn’t have to abstain, and voted Lib Dem last year. But if we did have a strict two-party system, and that was the state of it, you can bet that I wouldn’t bother with the ballot and would be out demonstrating on the streets.
Yeah, the Red Tory label was used just like Genocide Joe over here to suppress the vote among those incapable of making nuanced decisions. And it worked here in the UK just as well as it did in the US.
Except that we currently have a Labour Government? Did you also miss the part where I said I voted anyway?
I don’t have to vote for anyone I don’t agree with. I also don’t have to pick “the lesser of 2/3/4/whatever evils” because, to me, that is falling for the oligarchs’ trap. If you want to get mad at somebody, get mad at those who voted for the Tories here, or the Republicans in the US. They’re to blame, not the left who are divided by the fact that nobody in politics wants to represent their collective interests.
Frankly, if you think that I am morally compelled to vote for Labour, even when I disagree with their fascist rhetoric, then you are licking the boots of a broken institution.
Indeed, they want us to think it’s a left vs right situation so that we’re busy fighting ourselves when really it’s the oligarchy vs the people. We need to stop being distracted by the circus.
Great, what’s your next excuse for not deciding?
Rioting, instead of voting for one of both agents planted by the oligarchs. The illusion of democracy really isn’t worth defending to the death like this.
Why are you so angry at another leftist? Save some of that for the literal MAGAs.
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Yeah you cant expect people to vote for the lesser evil 3 times in a row. The democrats won and had 4 years to enact drastic enough changes to not be called “the lesser evil” anymore, but they didnt. Now they have to deal with the consequences of their own inaction.
There’s no possibility of democracy delivering perfect candidates. So you are always going to be voting for the lesser evil if you expect a candidate to be elected. But that’s fine, don’t participate, it might pollute your pristine moral purity. Just stay the fuck out of the way when the time comes.
So you decided to vote for the greater evil to teach the lesser evil a lesson? That’s a galaxy brain move there.
Before you decide to say something stupid about voting third party, in the reality we live in if you don’t vote for major party candidate A you’re helping major party candidate B win. It’s not an ideal system, but unfortunately reality is often not ideal.
Who said im from the US? Im just observing their stupidity from the outside.
This is your fault if you didn’t vote Harris.
I do not think it is fair to equate someone who abstained from voting due to dissatisfaction with both candidates to a literal MAGA who voted Trump. The latter are the ones who directly led to this outcome; the former just didn’t help it.
What you’re really saying here is that no one can expect you to anticipate the predictable realities you live amongst.