• OpenStars@kbin.social
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    9 months ago

    Mathematics is the only branch of science that will continue long after the universe ends.:-)

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      Math is literally made up. There is no physical basis for math. Math is just another language used to describe things. The universe doesn’t care whether there’s “2 particles” or “1 particle and another particle” or “1 particle + 1 particle”. It doesn’t make these distinctions. Math only exists as long as there is an intelligent species which uses it. If there are no intelligent brains capable of using math and with a knowledge that it exists, math stops existing.

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        Except there is math in nature, such as fractals, the Fibonacci sequence, and the wave behavior or sound and light. Sure nature doesn’t have any awareness of doing math, but it is there. Not all math is made up just for our understanding.

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          9 months ago

          That’s kinda the point though. Math is a language inspired by reality. It describes the logical relationships between things in an abstract format. Physical sciences like physics or chemistry build off it by adding rules and units to more accurately describe or predict real-world relationships, but at the end of the day, it’s all made up. Nature isn’t doing math to create a fractal any more than you’re doing math when you move your fingers or toes. Math doesn’t create a fractal, it describes it! You can then use that description to create a fractal, but the fractal isn’t math.

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            9 months ago

            This conversation reminds me of the first couple times i surfed Reddit over a decade ago. It was so cool to be in a place where intelligent and interesting discussion was happening… Wish i could contribute something useful to it, but i just want to thank you all for carrying that kind of energy into the '20s 🥂

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          You mean logic. Math is describing this in formulas. Some even make up nonsense with formulas. Wasn’t there a scientific ‘proof of god’ with flawed logic years ago?

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        9 months ago

        And it has an awkward syntax. That i can have this opinion at all is already proof of it being made up. Which is applied logic btw.

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      9 months ago

      Pretty sure that when humanity dies, math dies with it, and the universe won’t give two fucks about it and continue on it’s merry way.

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        9 months ago

        Think e meant in the sense that math is true regardless of the universe (or some people believe)