save_vs_death [they/them]

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Cake day: November 27th, 2020

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  • To address the original question of the source, it serves the “side” of the baby brain that thought they were a debate genious after seeing that fallacy infographic floating around the internet circa 2010. I only now noticed that this was posted to /r/fallacy so indeed, that is the stated goal, how can I use the thought terminating cliche to tell people they’re wrong.

    And pursuant to your well thought out explanation, I know it’s wasted on most thermian-brained people, because they simply apply second and then nth degree thermianism: “Yeah, the slavers aren’t the good guys because the story says so, but then again why did someone write a story where siding with the slavers isn’t that bad. You can’t say it’s a result of the complex interplay of the story, because via thermianism, the writer wrote that too! In fact they also wrote the base structure of the world that led to that complex interplay, so yes, actually, the writers stance on slavery is problematic precisely because it’s not universally condemned.”

    I’ve had some flavour of the above conversation five times this year ALONE. I’m trying to talk people into the idea that liking a problematic character doesn’t make you into a real life abuser. I know chuds think media literacy is the “new” rhetorical weapon fashioned against them, but I don’t waste time talking with chuds, most of the people I know are ok, and talking about media criticism is so bad it’s depressing.


  • The data stealing thing is such a cope too, I would rather a chinese company “steal my data”, what are they gonna do with it? Increase my insurance premiums? Use it to call the cops on me? Share it with other corpos to raise my plane ticket prices? Yeah, thought so, they can’t do diddly.

    As for the child labour, it’s a known social problem, and they’re trying to solve it. Legally, child labour was abolished way back when, you can’t work unless you’re over 16, but of course that won’t stop some people from sending their kids to work, especially in rural areas. As per this paper an estimated 7% of children between 10 and 15 were working in 2010 (yes, some 14 years ago). I can only imagine the situation got better. I trust to cite it because the study is done by Chinese people at a Chinese University.

    I think there’s a difference between a country where child labour is on the books illegal, people do it out of desperate social conditions, and the government are trying to find a solution for it, including supporting studies to get the real numbers; contrasted with a country where child labour laws are rolled back, were never that stringent to begin with, and are pushed because of increasingly desperate social conditions, as a trap to almost guarantee generational poverty from then on out.

    edit: To be precise and to the point, the “child labour for TEMU” angle is demonstrably false. That sounds like people imagine that children are ushered into the iphone assembly abattoir, ooh, spooky. But this is all subsistence smallholders sending their kids to take the cows to graze after school, or pull out weeds and re-dig watering trenches. Or families that have otherwise not enough working heads and pressure their kids to take up work early. Remember, by Chinese standards, a 14-year old stocking shelves is child labour and therefore illegal.

    I don’t like TEMU, I think it’s a bit crap, and I can say that without having to rely on weird sinophobia, it’s that easy.







  • You know what’s baffling about this take is that at least mask off nazis have a very easy consistent non mental gymnastics take on it: “yes, they burned trans literature and it was good that they did so.” Fascinating, now face the wall. I don’t know what kind of pretzeling this moronic take requires. In fact, not only did Magnus Hirschfield’s institute research queerness and transness, they undertook the first gender confirmation surgery. The woman in question, Dora Richter, is presumed killed during the attack on the institute or in custody after it. All of this information is incredibly easy to verify.










  • I can’t even begin to imagine what’s going on here, but I know there were some declassified recordings and we know that:

    racism

    Nixon compared Indian women to Black women and said, “I mean, people say, what about the Black Africans? Well, you can see something, the vitality there, I mean they have a little animallike charm, but God, those Indians, ack, pathetic. Uch.”

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    Also I’m pretty sure at some point Nixon and Kissinger (of course) tried to get China to pressure India over the Indo-Pakistan war.