The rail union contract expires at the end of this year meaning the rail union workers can strike again sometime in 2025. Whoever wins the 2024 general election and becomes president will immediately have to deal with that possibility. If Biden is serious about how Trump is the biggest threat we face then promising to veto any attempts to force another contract onto the rail unions is a bargain.
Your move Joe. Are you willing to compromise with leftists or do you want to go down in history as the second establishment Democrat who lost to Donald Trump?
Comical but irrelevant. Those people didn’t vote for Biden in the 2020 general election and won’t vote for him in 2024. I voted for Biden in the 2020 general election but if he doesn’t promise to back rail unions in 2025 I will vote 3rd party this year.
If Biden thinks he needs our votes to defeat Trump this is the deal. He can take it or leave it.
EDIT: I find it hilarious I’m being down voted for pointing out MAGA people won’t vote for Biden under any circumstances. You people really have lost the plot when it comes to being in “the big tent party”. If you want the bulk of the votes from leftists we need to have a seat at the table. If “pro-union” Joe won’t promise to back rail unions in 2025 then we don’t have a seat at the table and he doesn’t have our votes. It’s a good deal. Joe Biden should take this deal. You should be doing everything you can to tell Joe Biden he needs to take this deal.
“Biden isn’t going to improve things so I’m going to actively make things worse for everyone, myself included.”
I am not OP: If you can’t do shit for your constituents then that’s how things will fall into place.
Sometimes you gotta threaten to drag a stubborn person off the cliff along with you so they will not constantly push you towards the edge.
And if you could do that without enabling the deterioration of civil rights for women, ethnic minorities, and LGBTQIA people that’d be great, thanks.
I mean, I’m not American so I don’t really have to care but still. There’s a time and place for protest votes, and this election isn’t it. Sure, Biden may not be perfect, but Trump literally said that he’d (try to, but considering the current supreme court…) be a dictator.
Every presidential election since 1992, the DNC have warned about it being “the most important election ever”, one that the country can’t afford for them to lose. It’ll never be time.
Guess what else hasn’t changed since 1992?
Guess what HAS changed since 1992?
EVERYTHING FUCKING ELSE!
We don’t have the opportunity. People who voted for Joe Biden in the 2020 primaries made sure of that. One of the ways you could have helped avoid this situation was by shaming people for even considering voting for him in the primaries. There were much better options.
I’ll forgive you since you’re not American but this is a deliberate strategy by the DNC and establishment democrats. They don’t want to compromise with leftists and they’re fine losing to fascists. It’s hard for people to accept but the reality is this: Biden is evil too.
You are why the right wins. You hold grudges against your own party.
When Trump wins, it will be your fault not whatever reason you make up. You are responsible.
This is the same stupid bullshit around petty grievance that allowed Trump to beat Hillary.
If the DNC wanted left coalitions or big-tent unity, they’d end FPTP elections and kill superdelegates. They can do both, but won’t try either. Bully coalition wings into unity every two years, then back to business as usual 😎
Just quoting Milk-Sheik from above here. If they need leftists votes, then fucking earn them. Otherwise, shut the fuck up.
It’s a party for adults, not childish greviances over subject matters you do not comprehend. Voting against the democrats because they don’t make a pointed statement about some specific union that you aren’t even a part of is exactly that.
Grow up. The world is bigger than you. Progress requires sacrifice.
If you want to be a self involved twat, there is already a party for that. They are voting for Trump.
Stop pretending you’re a progressive if you aren’t voting for the only party that pushes for progress.
Alright then get all the adults together and elect Biden on your own. Ignore us children. What’s the problem?
What sacrifice did people make voting for Biden in the 2020 primaries?
I won’t vote for someone who’s going to pass legislation to block rail unions from striking in 2025. I know Trump will. I know Biden will unless he promises otherwise.
Yes. It is. So what do you have to say about people who voted for Biden in the 2020 primaries? Did they think we were bluffing twice? Are they brain dead?
Seriously, I can not fathom why people want to try so hard to discourage a third party vote. Like if there were a year for say a Perot or Nader to shine it would be now because literally everyone hates both sides. It feels like these other posters can’t grasp that “enemy of my enemy is my friend” only runs so far especially when the best your “friend” can ever do is indifference and platitudes.
Or outright deliberate sabotage in the case of the rail strike. It was a rare situation where doing nothing would have been celebrated.
“After Trump, our turn!”
Fucking morons.
Actually it was “After Obama, our turn!”
Bold strategy Cotton, let’s see if voting for fascism pays out for you
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bold strategycompletely braindead decision was made by people who watched Hillary lose and decided to make the effort to show up to the 2020 primaries so they could vote for Joe Biden. I’m not faulting you for having a negative opinion about my decision but if you’re gonna mock people for dumb decisions surely some should be cast in that direction yeah?These folks believe making your own choice to support a third party who supports you, in contrast to the two groups who said they wont, is supporting fascism. Forcing you to conform to the established system laid out for you is not, with irony this strong I do not believe you could ever reach them.
I don’t think I could ever get them to agree with my point of view. But I do think if they believe our resolve they would realize they’re trying to squeeze blood from a stone and begin screaming louder at Biden and morons who voted for him in the 2020 primaries.
They seem like they’re close. The claim that “we can push Biden to the left” was the best acknowledgement to date that we had at least some reasonable expectations and that they would support us. That promise never materialized but the fact that it was made gives us something to point to when they try to insist we vote for Biden again. We blindly trusted the promise once. It’s not unreasonable for us to refuse to do it again.