I can’t imagine anyone that has decent prospects would agree to go back to Tesla after getting canned with those kinds of wild swings in decision making.

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    Since it’s only been a week, a lot of those people are going to come back. But now they’re coming back with updated resumes and a linked in pro subscription. The good folks will be bailing in the coming months, but they’ll stay and work in a half ass way since it’s better than unemployment and cobra. Musk basically ensured uncontrolled attrition.

    How did this idiot actually manage to ship cars to begin with?

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      He had better handlers and PR team back then so more people thought he was just an eccentric billionaire Playboy inventor and were willing to do the dirty work needed to make it happen.

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        All his pedo calling and right wing crazy got online when he fired them.

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        I think he was genuinely better back then too.

        Not great - in a ton of ways - but way better.

        Something snapped 4 or so years ago and all his worst parts have been getting progressively worse.

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          I think part of it was he had a really tough time dealing with California covid regulations for his business. It wasn’t something he could buy his way out of or pad someone’s pocket to make go away and they were very serious about it. In the same vein, that’s around the time his daughter came out as trans and you can see how that ended with her changing her name and completely disassociating herself from him. Combine that all with a slow (arguable) but consistent decline in the public’s admiration and opinion of him (which he craves desperately) and he began to crack.

          Started running into things he couldn’t control or pay to go away and couldn’t cope I guess… I dunno

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      I mean he was not so incompetent at one point. not sure what year exactly it was but he lost it at some point.

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        I read in another thread that a lot of people agreed Elon lost it when he called that diver of the rescue team for kids trapped in a cave in Thailand a pedo. I mean wtf. If I remember correctly he never apologized and defended his insult. That’s completely unacceptable.

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          That definitely opened my eyes. Also, a lot of rich people lost their minds during COVID because they were briefly treated like the rest of us.

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          Yeah. That’s when we noticed it publicly. I was pretty online at that time period and Elon was well regarded before that. There were the his family wealth issues and the whole ousting Tesla founders and calling himself one or whatever that whole thing was.but they seemed like an alright side effect of genuis at the time…

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          Certainly sometime before that and the purchase of X but at one point with tesla, spaceX, and solar/battery stuff he seemed to be going somewhere. even the boring company. It was around or post hyperloop. I think he needed an excuse for the boring company and then I dunno somehow lost it with it being impractical.

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          That’s just Elon being petty and he was attacked first.

          It was his trans daughter coming out and disowning him when shit started spiraling into the right wing must save the world from wokeness.

          There’s a big difference in being petty or vindictive or an asshole and this anti wokeness stuff which is going to cause great harm to society.

          He always had the asshole/ petty thing going if you followed him before.

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        He just became more public and we know him better. He’s always been the same.

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          Nah, I have been in meetings with him before. While he was an asshole that I hated due to the way he treated my customer, he was really smart and spoke very lucidly and concisely. He had a vision and was doing everything he could to achieve it.

          Nowadays it’s like he has no coherent vision and is just doing whatever wild shit comes to his head. I think when he went from “barely a billionaire who spent it all and nearly went bankrupt” to “holy shit printing billions” then all guardrails came off and he let himself go free.

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            He got rich enough everyone said yes and or smiles. He lost the ability to have people be critical of him and never found someone to aid him.

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        He fired his PR team a few years ago. That’s been the difference.

        He said plenty of dumb shit prior with people cleaning it up. One of my favorites was probably 10 years ago now. He claimed Model 3 assembly line automation would move so fast they’d have to worry about wind resistance.

        My friends and co-workers still laugh about that one now. It’s such an absurd “business” mentality of go fast = good. So go crazy fast = more good. With a technology that doesn’t exist and kinda doesn’t need to. It makes more sense to increase system capacity (multiple lines) when you’re chasing throughput like that. But what makes even more sense is accurately forecasting your production so you don’t have to slap a full car together in 30 minutes to keep up with demand.

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        He’s always been incompetent. He was fired from PayPal for that very reason. He’s used his parents emerald business money to fabricate a career. He’s paid his way into being the engineer he clearly idolized but couldn’t actually earn himself. He bought Tesla, he bought Twitter, the “HyperLoop” was a hundred year old idea called a vac-train. Even the biggest selling point for SpaceX, were just plans NASA had decades ago but the technology didn’t exist at the time to pull it off. I mean the Boring Company… we’ve been successfully digging subway tunnels for a long time… the London Underground opened in 1863. New York had theirs in 1904. Elon in 2018 debuted a claustrophobic tunnel that was less than 2 miles long…

        If it wasn’t for daddy’s money, he would have been a nobody. But he bought his way into some sort of ‘relevance’ and has conned a lot of people who don’t understand science out of a lot of money. His greatest accomplishment is being a great conman.

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        What I heard when he first started turding Twitter, is that there was a decent team of execs and managers at Tesla that were able to manage him and keep him from mucking things up too much.

        It makes to me that now he’s gotten a taste of being Head Twit, he’s used to there not being a team running interference for him and is just barreling through with all his cockamamie bullshit.

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      but they’ll stay and work in a half ass way since it’s better than unemployment and cobra.

      Yep. Or they’ll stay and do no work at all and count on it taking a long while for anyone to even notice.

      it certainly isn’t competent management they’re working for.

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    I can’t imagine anyone that has decent prospects would agree to go back to Tesla after getting canned with those kinds of wild swings in decision making.

    I can $ertainly think of a $cenario where I might con$ent to let bygone$ be bygone$ and go back to work for that a$$hole

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      Indeed know a guy who got played 9ff by big blue. He was the only one who could do his job so he has screwed them as a contractor for 500 a day 100% working from home and a loooooong termination clauses

      Edit sorry this is in the UK not us

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        500 a day is $62.50/hr, that’s not very good for contracting, especially if they don’t take taxes and healthcare out. Any sort of key contractor like that ought to be worth at least $250/hr

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          Seriously, that’s really low rates. Healthcare and all that overhead is usually at least double of the actual salary.

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            I charge $90(CDN), pay myself around $40. Solo contractor with occasional support staff.

            Need to up my rate, it’s a bit low for what I do, even though I’m no genius or expert specialist.

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        He should re-brand as a “consultant” and charge double that.

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      I need a 1yr salary sign-on bonus before I clock in. I also need full pay for 120 months after any form of departure from the company.

      You know, since I can’t trust the stability of the relationship.

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          Oh naturally.

          I was just ironing out what I wouldn’t be doing any work for.

          I’d get that shit notarized and then quit. Take a 10 year vacation to academia or something. Get published. 🤷‍♂️

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    Go back with a decent pay bump (obviously he needs them) and with a plan to bolt ASAP. Continue your job search while you collect a higher temporary salary.

    Terrible move from Elon as it shows he has no negotiating power.

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      I’d only do this if I was desperate. The company already showed they are willing to just pull the trigger at the drop of a hat and don’t give a fuck, even if I was still looking I’d be waiting for the other shoe to drop.

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    It’s crazy how the US gov basically handed him a monopoly on EV charging infrastructure, something Rockefeller could have only dreamed of, and the guy throws it away less than two weeks later in some ketamine fuelled stupor. Then has to backtrack at the cost of reputation, confidence, and sentiment. Truly another great stable genius.

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    This is a sociopath testing fealty. He is deliberately abusing people in an attempt to show his power and diminish theirs. Remember when he tried to blame his sociopathy on autism thereby besmirching the disabled? I do.

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    I’d go back, put my feet on the desk and collect a little walkin around money, basically daring them to fire me again…

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      I’d go back and introduce enough backdoors to make them utterly incapable of staying in business. Steal all the documents. Then steal things. Then talk my way into being fired. Then start popping off the backdoors one at a time. Post all the documents for free. Something something shorting the stock.

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    Announce large workforce cuts: line go up?

    Announce large investment in workforce (even if it was just cut): line go up more?

    I don’t really get the logic that’s going on the impulsive billionaire imbecile’s mind.

    Everyone being rehired to Tesla had better be asking for at least double for the trouble Musk put them through.

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      Someone probably reminded Elon of the giant government grant he took to expand the supercharger network and that he could make the company liable for losing all that money.

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    This is just getting stupid now. It seems Elon has totally lost his mind.

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    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    Two weeks ago, Tesla CEO Elon Musk enacted widespread layoffs throughout the company, including the 500-strong team responsible for the brand’s Supercharger.

    Now, Tesla is looking to hire some of them back, Bloomberg reports, as Musk promises to spend $500 million expanding the network.

    The layoffs also appeared to put Tesla’s plan to build a more powerful charger that would benefit cars using 800 V or 900 V architectures, including Audi, Porsche, Lucid, and others, on hold.

    But last week, Musk announced that Tesla would spend more than $500 million building out more chargers, just days after saying the focus would instead be on uptime at existing locations.

    (At the time of the layoffs, Electrek reported that Musk got rid of the entire team because its Tinucci did not lay off enough workers on her own.)

    In 2019, he decided to close all of Tesla’s retail locations to pay for a cheaper version of the Model 3 sedan.


    The original article contains 479 words, the summary contains 158 words. Saved 67%. I’m a bot and I’m open source!

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    What are the job titles of the people on these teams? I would suppose physics and CS. How are those job sectors looking in terms of vacancies? I’d think that there are more workers than jobs and that this is a ploy to get less experienced people for cheaper but they’re trying to rehire the same employees.