• Stern@lemmy.world
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    I mean, apart from the archaeologist part that seems pretty sane to me to ask if you’re an atheist or at least a skeptic.

    https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis 4&version=NIV

    Adam and Eve have two kids, Cain and Abel.

    Cain kills Abel (8). Cain gets cursed. (11) Cain is afraid he’ll be killed by… ??? (14). God is all, nah fam karma mark lmao. (15) Cain goes and lives in the land of Nod. (16) Cain, one of three living humans at this point, makes love to his wife, who randomly now exists, and births a son, Enoch. Cain also builds a city… for the now five people who live on Earth. (17).

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      Apparently the biblical explanation is that it’s a sister of Cain. Maybe the daughters births didn’t warrant an extra line in the Bible? It probably doesn’t keep a record of when Adam and Eve acquire new property as that’s mostly what women were considered.

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        From the Creation Museum. Directly from their website, so they’re proud of this:

        Number six is my favorite. “Because God said incest was okay back then and who are you to judge?”

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          They really said that genetic disease is an accumulation of sin. Like someone is born with Downs Syndrome because their grandmother cheats at rummy.

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          No one commented on “get his wife”? I assume a bride mail order catalog? They must have existed back then.

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          Oh my parts 3 and 4 they’re so close to figuring out what the Darwin guy was talking about

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          Not sure I would trust anything from the creation museum to be actually biblical.

          I know there’s an ancient myth about Adam having a first wife before Eve — there’s probably also other myths that fill in the blanks. There’s also nothing stopping God from making more people during this period like he made Adam and Eve. They were probably just the “first batch” so to speak.

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                The story of Lilith has certainly been an inspiration to a lot of writers.

                But I suppose so has Eve being tempted by the fruit.

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              Adding a bit to that, it’s very likely that the old judaic religion was polytheistic like every other in the nearby region (assyrians, babylonians, egyptians, hittites), but started to consolidate around a single deity (not clear when, the tradition was oral). That meant some stories were left out for whatever reason, others changed, as they did several times over the centuries before being written, and every other god of their pantheon became yaweh, which explains why he has such drastically different personalities in the bible

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            Also, at some point any creation story is going to have to stop specifying literally every single thing that happened and start to hit broad strokes. Things like “we just didn’t explicitly mention every single kid she had” is probably the easiest explanation.

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          I loved their explanation regarding building the Ark authentically when Noah lived to be over 900 years old. It’s simple really. He built it when he was like 300. You see it makes perfect sense. Next question.

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      What’s interesting is in Genesis 1 God created all the stuff, but in Genesis 2 it says none of the plants or animals or man had materialized yet, then God makes then an asks Adam to name them.

      I definitely read Genesis as a story of tribal origins

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      Ive heard people say that Adam being the first human is metaphorical in the text, and means “first YHWH worshipper”, not sure how widespread or accurate this view is.

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        Accurate, not at all.

        Widespread, not much.

        The general answers to this question is or that Cain married his sister (fundamentalist view) or that Adam and Cain are metaphors and didn’t existed at all (mainline view).