• HEXN3T@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    Veganism: Great lifestyle. Wretched, toxic community (mostly).

    EDIT: I want to add I’m very much pro-vegan. They’re literally right. I probably will go vegan as soon as I work out a solution to my eating disorder (ARFID). You just won’t see me in any community. They just seem psychologically unhealthy.

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      I hate that Vegans are defined by the psychopath edge cases.

      I know 3 vegans. Two of them have cats. They aren’t delusional. They know cats are carnivores. They wish people ate more veggies. But live your life, you know?

      The other vegan I know choose veganism because of serious life-threatening issues where meat was causing hospital visits. She went cold turkey and will watch you eat a steak and wishing she could do the same.

      It’s fucking weird watching people shit on them. All because a psychopath on the internet speaks for all vegans and shoves broccoli into a cats mouth.

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        The other vegan I know choose veganism because of serious life-threatening issues where meat was causing hospital visits. She went cold turkey and will watch you eat a steak and wishing she could do the same.

        That doesn’t really sound like a vegan to me, that’s just a person who is on a plant based diet. Veganism is a moral stance

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      It’s like being a non-smoker on a party where everybody smokes. Almost nobody wants to hear that they’re doing something wrong. Toxicity is literally in the non-vegan community, warming up the climate and all, decreasing biodiversity, mistreating and killing animals for pleasure.

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        Have you stopped to think that plants also suffer stress when being picked?

        It’s kinda one-faceted to just ignore that suffering while focusing on other suffering don’t you think?

        True ethical consumption doesn’t exist the way you have it defined.

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          Have you stopped to think that plants also suffer stress when being picked?

          Yes. And they don’t

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              And you can’t prove it either. provide some evidence for your claim (that isn’t some unrelated study misinterpreted by silly news anchors)

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                while you can’t prove a negative, it is possible to find evidence for a positive claim. so, very much, you don’t know that. the truest thing anyone can say is that there is not a conclusive study that supports the claim.

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                  Even if plants might feel pain, we are certain that animals feel pain. Also if you think for whatever reason that plants feel pain, then, well, a vegan diet uses less plants because its a more efficient food source. Plants feeling pain, whether true or false, isn’t an argument against veganism in any way.

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                    the crux of the argument that they might feel pain is not that it is wrong, but that it is inevitable, so it cannot be wrong

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        You see, when you come into a comment thread defending your stance and still decide you need to act like a cunt, that’s exactly why people don’t like vegan communities.

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      20 days ago

      As a vegan, can confirm.

      When I was on reddit, I could not be part of the r/vegan community, it was fucked.

      The community here on Lemmy was better (though I wasn’t subbed because these communities are mostly newcomers to the vegan scene coming fresh off the high of being morally superior to the carnists).

      The good vegan communities were the ones focused on recipes.

      If you want to discus animal liberation, good, go do that, but I don’t want to my feed to be a combination of dinner and animal abuse. I’m trying to move past that…

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        What is your best breakfast recipe that isn’t oatmeal?

        The texture horrifies me, but it seems to be the go-to these days.

        I like peanut butter toasts, but my son is allergic to peanuts and coming to that age where he touches everything. So I need to find alternatives.