Plastic bottles in general should be illegal. It’s cans, glass bottles, or GTFO when it comes to beverages for me.
FYI cans have a plastic liner to prevent acidic foods from dissolving the aluminium, so there’s still some plastic in it (much less then fully plastic bottles tho)
We should really advance to “glass only” for single use containers (unless you have a really good reason to prefer plastic, like if it’s a medical product) and invest in the infrastructure to recycle them - a country can get up to a 99% recycle rate for glass if it puts the work in.
Yes glass is potentially less safe but my gut tells me that the risk of more broken glass is offset by the reduced air pollution and associated health risks.
It’s more that it’s heavier, so you have to transport a lot more weight for the same amount of product.
Secondary to that, glass can’t be shaped as compactly as an aluminum can or plastic bottle, so it takes up more room for the same amount of product.
There’s no perfect solution, which is why we have a lot of options.
There’s no perfect solution, which is why we have a lot of options.
But in the category of “single use drinking containers”, all of the options besides glass carry with them more and worse externalities than what glass production and recycling carries. Which is why “having a lot of options” isn’t a positive in this case, it just means that a large part of the market is operating in a way that is more destructive to society than it needs to be.
I dunno. it takes a lot more heat to melt and recycle some glass that plastic. that and the transport weight is a whole lot of extra environmental cost.
and the whole separating by color thing in the recycling bins. best bet is to reuse the bottles for the same beverage by rinsing them back at the original bottling plant but that is a logistics nightmareWhat about Tetra paks?
Aren’t they as equally unrecycleable as plastic?
I can’t even put them in my recycling bin…which is where the glass and plastic goes.
Glass has the best taste too, because it is almost totally chemically inert, you don’t get the odd flavor changes that you do with aluminum cans or plastic bottles.
Ah, but without plastic bottles how would we generate additional profits from the excess waste of oil production?
Sad, from a nostalgia point of view, but probably a win, environmentally. We have a pipeline to recycle plastic bottles, the mylar pouches are pretty much all single use.
We actually don’t have a pipeline to recycle plastic bottles though, right?
Bottle deposit systems are generally effective. In Sweden, 90-95% of the pet plastic in drink bottles makes it back to a factory to be used as raw material for new bottles. We don’t really recycle the hdpe lids or polyester labels, though.
Why aren’t we just using glass, as we did for decades just fine.
Our school won’t let us send reusable glass containers excuse of fear of breakage.
I kinda understand, but our first grader has been using them for snacks at home for 5 years and never broken one.
That’s not actually a solution when talking single-use either. Remaking the bottles from recycled glass is incredibly energy intensive and not an environmentally friendly process either. Multi-use bottles are much better, but the cleaning required also isn’t that simple and also relatively energy intensive (far from remaking the bottles of course).
There’s also practical downsides to glass (heavy, breakable), but those are subjective and their relevance highly depends on the use case.
Ideally, we wouldn’t buy stuff to drink in any kind of bottle, but just use tap water. possibly just buy some concentrated stuff to then make your actual drink at home. Nothing beats the effectiveness of transporting water through a simple pipe, but that isn’t even possible everywhere in the world due to drinking water quality issues…
A lot of glass bottles aren’t melted down, but simply washed and reused.
Good job with reading you did there. Your didn’t even make it 8 words in and already decided to comment. Maybe give it another go, if you dare, and try getting a little further this time.
Well that would be because the god-king CEO would have like 45k less per year out of his 38,000,000 dollar salary without bonuses and stock value if we were to do that, you fuckin peasant idiot chump. Not only that but their enabling middle management might have as much as $200 less in their annual bonuses. Think for someone else other than yourself for once.
But much better to use aluminium.
At least aluminum actually is recyclable.
There is still a plastic liner on the inside, glass, stainless steel or nothing
I see a ton of comments here hating on nostalgic people, with no actual nostalgic people in sight yet.
Personally I don’t care if a pouched drink exists or not, but if they are no longer producing pouched drinks they should probably retire the brand.
Do you remember what a CapriSun tastes like? It’s somewhere between an extremely-artificially flavored “juice” concentrate and a “fruit flavored” drink like Kool-Aid. The whole appeal was the packaging.
It’s quite literally a bit of orange juice, filled up with water and loaded with sugar.
I see a ton of comments here hating on nostalgic people, with no actual nostalgic people in sight yet.
…yeah you’re in a Lemmy comment section.
This is absolutely reeks of a bullshit “OMG the sky must be falling for you” condescending article from an older generation that thinks younger nostalgia is silly. I wouldn’t give this article any more credence than a boomer yelling “Avocado Toast!” at you when you’re enjoying a nice brunch. It’s just needlessly sensationalist shit stirring.
I have always, for the entirety of their existence, hated those dumb pouches. Good riddance as far as I’m concerned.
They made a really loud noise in the lunchroom if you inflated the pouch all the way, folded over the straw to seal it, then stomped on it really hard with your shoe. This was before mentally deranged people started shooting up schools though, so maybe don’t try it.
Mentally deranged people have been shooting up schools since before Capri Sun was even invented…
How old are you?
I’m not going to look it up to verify, but I’m pretty sure Capri Sun existed before Columbine.
Columbine was far from the first school shooting. According to the Washington Post:
“The first recorded school shooting in the United States was in 1853 at a schoolhouse in Louisville, Kentucky. On November 2, 1853, Matt Ward shot and killed teacher William H.G. Butler with a pistol hidden in his coat pocket.”
I think the very important point you’re missing is that schools did not exist in fear of school shootings before Columbine. There were no lockdown drills and crazy security measures for entering and leaving the building. So making a big loud noise would not make people instantly think someone was shooting up the school like it very well might today.
I’m not sure how I missed that from their first post. /s
I get it, you’re scared. Noone was ever scared like that before.
Edit: I looked it up, mocked a false statement and declaration of ignorance.
Got downvoted. I’m not promoting violence, I’m mocking ignorance.
I think you replied to the wrong post
And - Rudolf Wild invented the drink in 1969
I know it’s not the first, I never claimed it was. But as someone who is old enough to remember what life was like before Columbine, that was the one that changed everything. That’s when we started having active shooter drills.
Then 9/11 just amplified it.
It’s that I’ve been in schools with after school activities in the last year.
Kids were popping chip bags and nobody drew weapons or jumped because of a loud pop that sounds nothing like a normal gunshot.
I was in school before columbine ever happened.
I don’t think violence in is ok in most situations. I think America has a mental health and gun issue.
I like the Capri Sun mylar things from a nostalgic perspective.
Seconded. And trying to stab the flexing surface with that weak-ass straw.
Skill issue 😉
Unironically, there’s a technique to it. I forgot how after I got older, and was genuinely frustrated trying to drink from one until I remembered how to do it.
The pouches seem like less plastic.
They have these revolutionary containers made from paper that is layered in order to make it hard and card like. Almost stiff as a board. And is capable of holding liquids and also breaks down very easily. 😒
What are they lined with to prevent them from getting soggy from contact with the liquid?
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Probably parrafin.
Take a wild guess what parrafin is made from…
Not sure if it has the same issues breaking down as plastic, but it’s still a petroleum byproduct, so we should probably be moving away from it.
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Right? But this only applies to Capri Sun. If it were Hi-C, you’d demand a juice box.
Also, the people who are currently in their childhood absolutely do not care. It’s just us 40+ curmudgeons that must drink Capri Sun from a pouch, Hi-C from a tiny box, and Sunny D straight from that wonky-shaped jug that won’t fit in the fridge door.
I dunno… Anytime my kids see these pouches at a store, they beg us for them. We’ve never bought them at home either. I think kids just like the novelty of drinking out of a bag.
I very specifically remember the controversy 15-20 years ago when it was found that many of these pouches had mold in them, and you couldn’t see it because of the pouch or even taste it. I’m sure the quality control since then has improved, but any time I see a pouch of juice, I think about that mold incident.
First World Problems
Now this is a controversial thread
The article doesn’t actually say they are phasing out pouches, just that they are introducing bottles.
Yeah thats fair.
The outrage might even be a result of corporate marketing strategy.
Maybe I should alakazam the post?
Seems they updated the article title, which now says the exact opposite of your post title.
Unsure if you can edit. Here’s the new title:
Capri Sun promises they aren’t phasing out pouches after reports of a switch to bottles ruined childhoods everywhere
Oh no. I can’t relive the childhood frustration of being unable to access that sweet nectar shielded behind an impenetrable puncture-proof material with no tools to work with but the flimsiest of mini plastic straws.
Then you push hard enough to punch through, and the straw goes straight out the back too.
I don’t know about over there, but here they’ve started selling them with paper straws. Making it even more impossible to puncture that stupid little hole while ruining the straw in the process.
And of course it’s the only thing my daughter wants to drink. I’ve had to resort to using a nail file to open those things.
I hate paper straws. There are many different compostable straws and paper is about the worst.
It’s like a game now. Can you finish the entire pouch before the straw disintegrates? Stay tuned to find out.
They need to go the other way. More drinks in pouches. Cocktails for adults.
Fine by me!..As long as whoever at Pepsi made the decision to only release Hard Mt Dew in “Zero sugar” versions is nowhere near it
That annoyed me to no end. I have to wonder about the big push in artificial sweeteners recently; are they cheaper than corn syrup now? Are there enough people who are trying to cut back on sugar but also actually like the taste of dissolved copper in their drinks to keep soda profits high?
I don’t care about the nostalgia, but they are going to stop being easy to squeeze into a lunchbox now, so I’ll find a different brand.
In the United States, Kraft and its former parent company, the tobacco conglomerate Philip Morris Cos. (now Altria), have successfully marketed Capri Sun using strategies developed for selling cigarettes to children.[2] American parents often misidentify Capri Sun as healthy, and it is one of the most favorably rated brands among Generation Z Americans.
It gets worse, they are switching the line to whoop-ass, it will no longer come in a can.
So, what!? Now I have to pop a straw in a pouch of whoopass?! What is this world coming to!?!?!
Dude don’t make me straw up this whoop-ass.
Hahahahaha!!
You gonna make me tear open a baggie of whoopass, if you keep going!
No this is good, I’ve been complaining about this since I was a kid and drank one where the straw got all clogged up so I cut into it and there was some creepy gross dead worm looking thing.
