• Thorry84@feddit.nl
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    2 months ago

    Is this an American thing? We did absolutely not have to memorize any of that thing. We had to understand the structure, why the rows and columns etc. But memorizing it serves no purpose.

    With every class including tests and exams we were allowed to use a reference book. This book was pretty thick and contained a whole lot of info including the periodic table and all the info about elements you could ever need.

    I think my education (keep in mind this was 25 years ago) was focused more on the why and less on the what. If you understand why something is the way it is, the reason behind it and how to use it, you know a lot more than just being a flesh book that can list a bunch of facts.

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      2 months ago

      In Spain we did have to memorize it. Truly idiotic. People just invented mnemonic phrases to get through the exam and that’s it. It served no educational purpose whatsoever.

      • Captain Aggravated@sh.itjust.works
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        Of the four levels of learning, rote memorization is the lowest, easiest to achieve, easiest to test, and least useful. The student can demonstrate the ability to repeat a memorized phrase verbatim, or given a couple seconds to think about it they can rephrase it in their own words using their mental thesaurus. Multiple choice and short answer questions test rote memorization, which happen to be easy to grade, machines can do it. Rote memorization will have little effect on the student’s overall behavior, if it’s all you teach and test for you’re not a teacher you’re just cosplaying as one.

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      2 months ago

      It’s easier to verify rote memorization than actual understanding so naturally shitty schools focus on the former at the expense of the latter. Most American schools are shitty by academic standards.

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        2 months ago

        You’re not kidding. Public school in the city.

        There were so many dumb things I had to memorize. Periodic table. Solar system moon and planets. Multiplication table.

        Even worse is the people who see memory as intelligence because of that BS. I remember working at a office and the boss made Steve, the guy who knew 15 digits of Pi, his right hand man. Steve is currently still working there. Congrats Steve your superior memory apparently can’t get you out of your deadend job.

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            I always hated that they made us relearn the parts of speech every year in middle school and high school English. Surely by now it’s sunk in, I thought.

            But then the CHUDs started losing their minds about pronouns.

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        Our teacher offered extra credit to anyone who chose to memorize it. It was crazy too, I almost considered trying it since it didn’t seem that hard. The extra credit was enough to affect 20 percent of the grade. Then I realized most people who would try it are probably just smart enough to get an A already anyways, I know I was.

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      2 months ago

      In Lithuania we literally have the whole periodic table on the wall in every chemistry class I have ever been to.

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        2 months ago

        In the US we also have that in a lot of classes… they just cover it up during tests -_-

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      Czech here, also had to memorize it. But our school system here is 90% just memorizing shit, it’s a fucking joke.

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      2 months ago

      Memorizing the periodic table is probably the high-school assignment I’m most angry about to this day.

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    I’m a biochemist and I think the periodic table is easy to memorize. “Hydrogen, blah blah blah, carbon, nitrogen, oxygen” and that’s it. Wait, hold on, sodium and chlorine are also on there somewhere…

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    My chemistry teacher tried to teach us a “song” to remember it.

    “Hehee libeb canofnee something something piscalar”

    Which is stupid, because it was just reading the first few rows of it, but annoying that was 30 years ago and I still fucking remember it. I can’t even remember what I did yesterday. Fucking head full of nonsense.

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    Teachers in the 90s: you won’t always have a calculator.

    Me now: you were saying Ms. Knowitall?

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      But, consider you’re stranded in the wild. All technology lost due to an accident. It’s just you, nature and your skills. How will you know then for how many days the melons you’ve foraged will suffice if you’ve found N of them and eat one a day? /j