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I have a feeling Stylishskunk is a complete fucking moron.
In fact I know they are.
many people say that, everyone is saying it.
As well they should. The more the merrier, in fact.
Who knows? That might be the pseudonym of the current minister of trade in Denmark…
is his name Melon Shmusk?
Lol. I tried going on Twitter recently to respond to someone who commented on one of my blog posts, but was told I “clearly hadn’t read the article.” 😂 Good lesson to stop trying to engage over there.
There are so many toxic and fake accounts there now.
One time in my career someone did that to my face. I clearly didn’t understand a particular finding, but that’s understandable, I’m not in the “security” community, but heres an article I need to read to catch up on the issue before contributing the conversation.
I told him that since he has the paper open, he can just look at the authors for a second. He changed his tune to that while I may have made the finding, I clearly didn’t really understand it
My reply guy did the same kind of redirection, pivoting to something like “typical dumb Linux user”.
Where does it come from?
Ali G.
Edit: I just realized they swapped the faces LMAO
This is the original ^
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Some naunce that is lost is most of the celebration of the settled tarrif rate for one of the US’s top trading partners is for the decreased uncertainty that brings. If you’re managing a business’s supply chain you don’t want pure question marks related to the import tax rate in any part of that supply chain, especially when the possible values are anywhere between 0% and 200% for the import tax.
Edit: how’d I manage to typo “import” twice in two completely different ways?!
This assumes that Mr. Trump will honour the deal, which is a pretty big assumption.
I don’t think he really cares. My hypothesis is that Trump is just in love with the concept of deals, so he made these tariffs in an attempt to force other countries to make deals with him.
Realistically the actual levying of import taxes is far enough removed from the policymakers at the top that they’ll just follow the laws and court rulings as written until they receive orders otherwise. So unless someone in the Trump administration personally gets involved in the day to day, they’ll stick to whatever the written policies are
“Former” So you got fired, did you?
I jest.
Okay so.
I’ll buy that these tariffs will increase prices basically everywhere, making things harder to buy and everything suck a bit.
How is this “inflation?” My understanding of inflation is, printing more money means there’s more supply for the same demand, so the purchasing power of a unit of money goes down. Print a dollar without destroying a dollar, it’s easier to get dollars, dollars are less valuable. That is “inflation.” How will these tariffs decrease the value of money by making money easier to get?
Afaik inflation, even in the economics sense of the word, is just the increase in the price of things. We have different measures or inflation, e.g in the UK (and probably similarly in many other countries) we often measure inflation, for the purposes of fiscal policy, via consumer and retail price indexes, literally the cost of a certain range of items.
Printing money eventually causes prices to rise because there’s more money in circulation but the same number of goods, thus the prices increase (eventually). It’s a cause of inflation, not the cause.
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Buuuuuurn.
To be fair to the anonymous profile, he probably comes from a country where he does, in fact, know more about these things than the trade minister who represents him
I find it kinda of funny that he fell back to appeal to authority fallacy, though.
Is it appeal to authority? Tbh that reads more like “these are my credentials, and why I know what I’m talking about”
No authority required there.
If he led with that, sure
But it was a direct response to an assertion that he has no credibility, so it’s one of those times where it is a reasonable response to that sort of comment.
The fallacy was when the other guy declined to respond to the substance and instead attacked the guys credibility. The opposite of an appeal to authority.
First of all, his ‘authority’ (expertise) was specifically being called into question.
Second, appealing to authority isn’t fallacious when the authority is genuine and relevant.
It is not fallacious to reason that a math champion is likely better than the average person at math, or that a psychologist is likely better than the average person at understanding the psyche.
And it is not fallacious to argue that a former minister of trade ‘knows what they are talking about’ when they are talking about tariffs.
It doesn’t automatically prove them right, either. But again, that does not make the argument itself fallacious.
I’m still looking for the one single post that will match this community but not !confidently_incorrect@lemmy.world
There’s probably potential for consolidation, not that any of the community look that active
Probably. I like both anyway :)
Part of the problem is that these theories are dogmatic. They’re articles of faith.
Tariffs Bad! Make stuff more expensive!
No! Tariffs Good! Make domestic economy more stable and resilient to global price shocks!
Like, you can get under the hood and talk messy details if you’re a professional economic planner doing real long-term strategic policy making. Maybe you really do want steel tariffs so that your country’s last operational blast furnace doesn’t shut down in the face of low priced imports and a short term domestic downturn in construction. Maybe you’re trying to fight brain drain, so you try to cultivate a domestic semiconductor industry. Maybe you’re a single commodity export nation and you want to try and diversify. Maybe there’s a bunch of reasons why defensive domestic industry tariffs are still dumb and counterproductive.
But this conversation means dealing with educated professionals and industrialists with some fucking skin in the game. It’s too easy to heckle from the sidelines by chanting “You don’t know what you’re talking about!”
Saying tariffs are bad or good is ideological, true, but saying tariffs will increase inflation and prices is just a fact, it is not connected to ideology.
More of a general rule than a fact, since there are situations in which a targeted tariff can reduce inflation given time, but in a ubquitious sense they are a pressure towards increasing inflation.
But I think we can all agree that tariffs implemented the way they’re currently being implemented is horrible.
Tariffs are a tool to be used carefully, with thoughtful planning.
That’s true of any broad economic plan. Unfortunately, we don’t have broad economic plans anymore. Just vibes based noodling.
More than the tariffs themselves, it is the reckless and petty imposition of policy that’s fucking things up.
Blanket Tariffs are seldom useful. There are whole papers written about the efficacy of targeted Tariffs, none of whom would recommend this type of trade strategy
Blanked Tariffs are seldom useful.
They’re useful as punitive measures. Taken to the extreme, sanctions, embargos, and such are - functionally - just very high price tarrifs.
There are political reasons for a country or confederacy to deliberately cordon off trade with a neighbor or global rival. Most notably, if you’re pursuing regime change or concerned over foreign intelligence services infiltrating through trade channels, you’ll deliverstely choke back trade.
For people who believe the whole world is against them, tariffs make a lot more sense.
Reminds me of being at the football game this weekend with some cunts shouting from the stands: “I’m blind, I’m deaf, I wanna be a ref”
Like dude, fuck off, if you think they’re doing a shit job why don’t you go out there and try for yourself?
Tosser.
They said they wanted to be a ref though, so apparently they do want to try for themselves
I suppose sarcasm can be hard to translate through text
Not hard at all when you use /s appropriately
You’d think that former minister of trade in Denmark would be better at grammar.
لماذا تنتقده بهذا الشكل بينما هو يتكلم الانجليزية و انت لا تتكلم الدنماركية؟ تعلم لغة أجنبية بطلاقة بحيث لا تخطئ أبدا ثم تحدث بهذا الشكل، و إلا فأنت حقا منيوك.
In other words, cope.
My Arabic isn’t great but why are you assuming I don’t know any other languages?
That’s why I said “so fluently that you don’t make any mistakes”. It’s borderline impossible to never mess up when speaking a foreign language.
I dunno dude - I can’t read danish…
I can read it just fine, I just don’t understand most of what I read.
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Saw a protest sign reading ‘The mechanism by which tariffs influence production is raising prices.’
Skipping an article on a tweet, the horror.
Being on Twitter is the horror but skipping an article means his argument is null and void.
