• Crewman@sopuli.xyz
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    3 months ago

    TIL Edison didn’t kill Topsy the elephant, but did electrocute a bunch of stray animals.

  • Ð Greıt Þu̇mpkin@lemm.ee
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    3 months ago

    Man literally invented the electric chair entirely to showcase how bad going out this way is, and the psychopaths of the prison industrial complex wonder why people are becoming sceptical of the notion that the death penalty can be administered in any way that isn’t cruel and unusual.

    The whole point of punitive death is to be cruel and unusual to the alleged transgressor, to offer their corpse as a blood sacrifice on the altar of sadistic vengeance to the victims or the next of kin thereof

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      3 months ago

      Quick and painless execution was solved long ago. Shotgun from behind them. Like a light switch turning off. But it is rough on the guards.

      The real problem is we keep finding innocent people on death row. People that SCOTUS can’t even hand waive away. Until recently anyways, SCOTUS just up and ruled that new evidence can’t be considered by federal courts. So now innocent people on Death Row are pretty much just relying on the good will of the governor.

      So yeah, we know we’re killing innocent people and we refuse to stop.

  • kindenough@kbin.earth
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    3 months ago

    Edison shocked animals with AC to disprove Tesla, trying to prove that DC is safer. That is fact. However, the article already states in the beginning:

    Edison’s link to the death of Topsy the elephant may not be entirely grounded in reality.

    As I posted a while back, this is a rumor that comes along often, The killing of Topsy was done by her handlers as they wanted to get rid of her, they could not handle her anymore after an incident with her original handler. The film of the killing was released by Edison films yes, but Topsy was killed a decade after the war of the currents, and Edison wasn’t even in charge anymore of the company after the merger with General Electric. He wasn’t present during the electrocution of Topsy, did not have any electric business anymore, and again there is no evidence whatsoever that he was involved.

    I learned about the killing of Topsy because I am very interested in the life of Nicolai Tesla and his inventions. I dislike Edison because imo he did Tesla wrong, but I learned quickly that the most despicable thing attributed to him is very likely not true.

    https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/topsy-elephant-was-victim-her-captors-not-really-thomas-edison-180961611/

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Topsy_(elephant)

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      3 months ago

      Topsy was also electrocuted at the request of the ASPCA because otherwise she was going to be hanged and it was seen as more humane, which always seems to get left out.

      To clarify, Edison wasn’t trying to ‘disprove’ Tesla, the War of the Currents was Edison vs Westinghouse. Tesla didn’t invent AC, he would’ve learned about that in engineering school, he invented the 3 phase motor, which made AC significantly more practical. Tesla had an argument with one of Edison’s managers over pay, not with Edison. Tesla and Edison wrote each other letters later on and generally spoke positively of each other in public.

      Tesla’s an interesting guy but unfortunately went off the deep end pretty steeply. His ‘death ray’ was a ‘blueprint’ he sold to his landlord instead of paying rent and is basically gibberish. Wardenclyffe tower was doomed by not understanding wireless transmission and is basically a Bond villain device. Turning the Ionosphere and Mantel in to halves of a capacitor would both take more energy than humans have ever generated and be really really really bad for anything tall and conductive, which would be basically everything with the energies involved.

      • frezik@midwest.social
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        3 months ago

        Agreed, Tesla is way overvalued. It doesn’t help that he gets picked up by free energy cranks. When one shows up at my makerspace, they almost always cite Tesla somewhere.

        Not that Tesla did nothing, but people can’t leave it at his actual accomplishments. The fact that so much of his work can’t be reproduced is seen as deep magic rather than a failure of science.

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    3 months ago

    The more you read about that shithead edison, the worse it gets. The asshole acted with an impunity that defies modern logic.
    As it was, there was no social media and our current sensibilities back then, information took much more effort to spread, so way too many people have revered him as some sort of saintly hero. Word didn’t spread about how narcissistic and petty, how cruel to the point of savagery, he was.

    That goes ditto for Marconi, his “billion-dollar innovation” consisted of stealing every academic research idea and design within reach, and patenting every single one as his own.

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      3 months ago

      The asshole acted with an impunity that defies modern logic.

      … have you not seen how our modern billionaires act?

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          3 months ago

          Of course there is. It may not be morally justified, but it’s still logical.

          Their logic isn’t “We need to better society so that all may live in harmony”, it’s “I must control as much as possible to stave off the inevitable nothingness of death”.

          Assuming all things that are repugnant to you have no logic to them at all is an easy way to misunderstand and underestimate those who can do the most harm to you.