If?
Also, they might wanna check inside Canada. Current leader of the Conservative party of Canada has been flirting with extremists. Seen palling around with people who want trans folks dead. Bringing up abortion debate. The man is dangerous and if allowed to continue then it’s going to end up turning us into another American state. I’d like that not to happen. I’m tired of having to justify my existence as a gay man to people like him.
Fix our own shit please.
Total tangent, but: the famous Stamets from Risa is also Canadian? 😀
famous Stamets
You know I’m still trying to decide if being recognized constantly is a good or a bad thing lol
But yep. I’m Canadian, eh! Or b’y if you wanna be more accurate to my roots.
Oh a Newfie! 😀 I’m in / from Toronto but my dad’s side of the family are all Acadian from Nova Scotia. (That’s not me being an ignorant Torontonian assuming NS and Newfoundland are the same thing, just acknowledging they’re both that side of Canada 😂)
You’re being recognised for providing people with entertainment and joy. I’d say that’s a good thing! You’ve certainly provided me (and my friends by extension) with a ton of entertainment. To that point, if you message me your details I’ll e-transfer you $50 as thanks for all your good works.
All good! Nova Scotia and NFLD have a lot in common anyway. I’m in Toronto too actually. Have been for a few years now, for better or worse.
I can’t take credit for anything I post. Just stuff I’ve collected over the years and finally found a place to share it. I mean I can’t say that $50 is unappealing or unhelpful but I don’t make the posts for money or thanks or anything. Just like seeing people talking about Star Trek and I like helping people laugh. The world sucks and if I can be part of the day being a little better then awesome.
I like helping people laugh. The world sucks and if I can be part of the day being a little better then awesome.
With this sentiment, you’ve already made my day a little better. That’s something that I also try for myself and it’s nice to see others expressing a similar view.
I’ve been through too much shit to do anything else. I’m not always the best at it and sometimes I can fuck up severely or just be an asshole. But I try. All you can do, right?
Similar here. Have been lucky but have also been unemployed and couch surfing. Hope you’re doing well.
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Mycelium*
You two have fulfilled all of my stereotypes today, this was a lovely conversation below.
May your day be as lovely as you are <3
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I’ve already checked. I’ve got enough qualifications that I can just migrate to Canada.
It’ll be nice to teach them about what their summers are going to be like.
Canada is going to elect a conservative government, too
The whole world is shifting hard to the right. It’s pretty crazy to see happen in real time.
Something something “weak men” something something “hard times”
Male fragility will kill us all.
Women buying into patriarchy doesn’t make it any less of a phenomenon or any less dangerous.
Good thing that comment I replied to said “male fragility” and not “the patriarchy” or I’d probably agree with them.
You’re a fool if you extrapolated that meaning from my words. The male fragility drives the culture of insecurity, greed, and competition. Women can be infected as well, but they are not the drivers of this psychosis.
Male fragility doesn’t drive the culture of insecurity. It’s an artificially introduced wedge tactic intended to keep the working class infighting.
Everyone with money and power are pretty happy with the status quo.
If you ever find yourself thinking that any regular working person is “the problem”, step back and ask yourself who baited the trap. Some external narrative drew one of you in to make the other pissed off.
Like, they kept telling Cletus that the immigrants are why his paycheck is small, and that the big city liberals want to eradicate him. He says “Damn those immigrants” and then you come out of the woodwork telling him he’s the problem with the country and then boom: you’re suddenly the liberal who he’s heard hates him, word made flesh, just as the prophecy foretold.
Like, how goddamn convenient that it’s male fragility. How awesome for the 1% that out of everyone and everything, they hand you a loaded term like that that will CERTAINLY be taken out of context as a blanket condemnation of 50% of the population by anyone who doesn’t study sociology (spoiler alert, MOST PEOPLE)
Like, if someone said to you that it was a result of a slowness of male development, and thus the Latin for “slow” was appropriate here, and that the accepted term that you should use in the world to try and initiate a thoughtful, respectful exchange of ideas in good faith, so you should say “male retardation”, would you say “ya that sounds like a great way to talk to men and I can’t comprehend any reason why anyone might be standoffish when hearing it”?
Again, you’re a chump. You’re brandishing a term INTENTIONALLY loaded to incite division among the working class. You are a useful idiot to the people oppressing you.
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Except you’re ignoring the entire reality of male fragility in your attempt to shift the blame. The alpha males, the CEO billionaires, the dickhead fascists; they’re all fragile males. (Like you.)
Please explain to me in detail how a matriarchal social structure would solve this, with relevant historical examples to support your claims.
Also, “women are too dumb to think for themselves, they must be brainwashed” is one of the strangest supposedly left-wing takes I’ve seen on this site.
Please explain in detail how you arrived at the conclusion that I’m advocating for a matriarchal social structure. Hilarious that you’re demanding historical examples when you know they were all murdered by fragile men like you.
Ah yes, let’s red herring with gender politics and sexism.
Seriously, this isn’t productive, it’s toxic, and belongs back on Reddit and back on the gate communities there.
Lemmy “progressives” would rather argue about social politics than actually solve problems. It’s one of the far-rights greatest strengths, left-wing groups fragment at the drop of a pencil over the slightest disagreements
They were never aligned to begin with
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You got me on the furry hater. I can’t deny that one, but please translate that word spaghetti for those of us in the audience without brain damage.
It’s due to all the propaganda BS everyone needs a fairness doctrine for media at this point
Which is hilarious because I look at PP and all I see is a weak man and yet that’s what we will probably elect.
We won’t elect PP. We will elect whoever isn’t Mr.T.
PP isn’t doing very well even for the conservatives but they will still vote for him and the swinger voters have already made up thier mind and switched to the CPC.
Why wouldn’t you elect Mr. T? I would love to have BA Barakas leading my country
His main policy of “pity the fool” isn’t great.
I think it’s more “tech has created extremely reliable and granular methods to hijack a democracy”. Pair that with wealth inequality, and you have a recipe for billionaires able to buy their way into becoming nobility without putting a target on their backs.
This wasn’t some accident or an artifact - a small group of billionaires bought up the Western media over the last few decades, have run astroturfing operations to misrepresent public sentiment to lawmakers, and more recently have started to use social media to shape discourse. And I think we all know they do a whole lot more behind, but these are the things that are well documented publicly if you care to look
Humanity has plenty of cycles, but this was something done intentionally and systematically by a number of individuals that could fit in one room
Maybe if the leftwing was actually capable of doing something it would have some support.
The NDP got us national dental and doubled CERB payments, all while not even the opposition.
Also the NDP is the only party that wants to push public transit and better city design. Even if it isn’t a federal mandate.
The liberals are also pushing for 15 minute city infrastructure.
The Liberals also pushed for election reform…
They don’t need to elect anything. Fascism is inherently militaristic.
If the US goes full fascist, then it’s only a matter of time.
No place in the world will be safe.
Most places in the world were never safe from the US anyway, it has had aggressively competitive foreign policy for the last 80 years.
No argument there, but it can always get worse.
Meh, the USA won’t invade Canada. Even if we go full fascist Canada is way better as a frenemy.
Our largest trading partner won’t be able to give us a reason to invade.
Mexico on the other hand should watch out, given the amount of scapegoating our right wing throw their way.
Mexico is their largest trading partner now, just a heads up.
Yeah but the fascists are already talking about invading them. And like hey, last time we did it we got our most profitable state out of it
Facts have never had an effect on conservative feelings, despite one of their favorite sayings being “facts don’t care about your feelings”
Canada has already been identified as a valid target for decades due to South Parks “blame Canada.”
Our largest trading partner won’t be able to give us a reason to invade.
Water and farmable land?
Poilievre isn’t conservative. He’s pretty much far right.
He supports Ukraine, climate change targets, new housing construction, abortion rights, immigration, legal weed, and gay marriage. He has plenty of other extremely problematic positions and I hope he loses badly, but nevertheless, the gap between him and basically any Republican is pretty substantial.
He’s voted against abortion rights, he’s voted against gay marriage, he’s lukewarm about legal weed but tbf prob wont illegalize it, and his solution to climate change is producing more oil.
Wikipedia:
In 2020, he changed his position and said that a government led by him would never introduce a bill on the topic, and no private ones would be adopted. In 2021, Poilievre opposed a private member bill prohibiting sex-selective abortion.
Poilievre supports same-sex marriage; in a 2020 interview, he called it a “success” and stated “I voted against it 15 years ago. But I learned a lot”.
And yeah, he wants to produce more oil, but so does Biden. And for that matter, Trudeau also wants to build more oil pipelines. I wish there were more mainstream politicians who were genuinely anti-fossil-fuel but those are, unfortunately, few and far between.
- Wikipedia is not a reliable source
- They keep voting to infringe on that right as recently as this year https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2023/aug/03/canada-abortion-rights-pregnancy
- Ya I don’t think that Pollievre would restrict access to gay marriage, but if he voted against it with his gay father in attendance, if that isn’t a sign of a piece of shit I don’t know what is. ( he also is courting the voters and MP’s that do want to restrict it)
- Then vote for Singh and the NDP as he’s the only Federal Leader that kind of has a chance to become PM, that opposes oil, and at least the Trudeau government is talking about removing oil subsidies.
Honestly the most daming thing about PP is that he’s been in goverance since he finished uni, never held a real job in his life. Also I’m 100% sure he’s never made a woman cum.
Two years still. Lots can change and people will see through the piss poor attempt at the Conservative rebranding of Poilievre.
People the world over have been remarkably bad at seeing through cheap far-right populist pandering. I don’t trust the electorate.
Can’t wait!
im pretty sure they would close their borders and fast.
Never close your borders to another country’s brain drain
Shit. I just DQ’d myself by not knowing how to embed an image on Mobile via Thunder
Wellll maybe not never . . . Looking at operation paperclip
Hope that involves a plan for letting lgbt folks immigrate to safety instead of apologizing 80 years later like they did to the casualties of Nazi Germany who were denied safe passage
I’ve heard Canadians claiming they’re already letting LGBT folks from the US achieve refugee status, but that’s strange because Canada has a treaty with the US explicitly stating that they can’t take in refugees arriving from the US. So it seems like Canadian citizens think they’re taking in LGBT refugees from the US, and will likely be confused and push back when people try to tell them that Canada literally can’t take US refugees without the refugee doing a big, long legal song and dance. So my guess is that the Canada is going to claim they’re already doing it (when they don’t actually seem to) and then apologize again in 80yrs.
Edit: y’all wanna tell me how I’m wrong? As someone who’s head will probably be on the chopping block should republicans win the next election, I would really like to know if I can count on Canada not turning me around should I find myself having to show up at the border with my belongings.
I would love to say that I have hope that Canada will be willing to break that treaty, but Canada is still financially dependent on the US, not to mention that people who care a lot about “muh Canadian identity” would definitely be against taking Americans.
Honestly I think secessionism has more of a chance than Americans being let into Canada.
not to mention that people who care a lot about “muh Canadian identity” would definitely be against taking Americans.
I know someone who’s non-binary that’s moved to Canada (I think it was on a work visa), and they’ve talked about how Canada has been very welcoming to them in regards to their gender. However, they’ve also said that they’re very glad that their coworkers have either forgotten, or aren’t aware that they’re American because they’ve heard nothing but hate and vitriol towards Americans. No sympathy towards LGBT Americans, no sympathy towards BIPOC Americans, just generally “fuck Americans, they deserve everything that’s happening to them”.
That wasn’t something I was expecting to hear, and it seriously hurt my view of Canada and my hopes that Canada might act as a safe harbor towards LGBT and BIPOC Americans in the future (assuming republicans succeed with Project 2025).
Canada won’t be as eager to take US refugees as you hope. I can’t think of a small population dealing with massive refugee inflows from a place that much larger. Think of how destabilising the refugee migrations from Syria were on Europe. Lots of LGBT and sympathetic cases of course but lots of crazy and the amount of entitlement would be overwhelming.
The rest of the industrialised worried will have angry Americans in their faces screaming about their first and second amendment rights every day if there is an exodus.
The people we accept as refugee’s today live on the streets. You’d be better off pretending to be straight than moving to Canada now days. Doesn’t matter how accepting the government can be if they can’t actually govern and throw all the reigns of power over to corporations.
Or women who no longer have control over their own bodies and physical health
I’m both curious and personally invested on what their outlook on refugees would look like. I’ve definitely considered the possibility of having to flee to Canada as a trans woman, but I guess the question is how legitimately I’d be able to enter the country and whether I’d have to go into hiding once I get there.
Right now, yeah a trans person can seek asylum in Canada. But the leader of the Conservative Party is a culture war fashy type not too dissimilar from Ron Desantis. If he gets in, it’ll be dark days north of the border too.
As an American, please nuke us if Trump wins the next election.
I have some bad news for you.
I don’t blame them. As an American I’m mulling the same.
I just hope their plan includes an asylum path for Americans sick of this doubling-down on ignorance. Not to say Canada isn’t without their dumb dumbs either…
Trade Alberta out. It’s been stinging to join the parade of idiots.
Smith and Ford give enthusiastic, limp-wristed waves.
We’ve got our dumb-dumbs, and they’re definitely importing some culture war bullshit from you guys, but the party they fall in behind (Progressive Conservatives) is closer to democrats than the republicans, in general.
We need electoral reform to avoid the same in Canada. The official opposition is actively siding with fascists.
And just like the Democrats in the USA, the Liberals don’t seem to recognize the danger. The middle of the road will never save us from the far right.
I’m guessing the whole world has been doing some hard mulling since 2016…
Funny story, the whole world will arrive at the same place, just in time to kick off a third world war of stupidity.
The US DOD and intelligence services have been doing it.
Build a wall and make us pay for it!
Best get across before Canadians start dropping anti-migrant barriers in the Great Lakes.
let me in. LET ME IN!!!
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It sucks that that’s where we are but it’s smart.
Dump money into military spending, border control, and refugee assistance.
There is no amount of military spending that could protect Canada from the US. The military gap is obscene.
It makes no sense to ratchet up military spending
The US military itself, yeah probably not…But a group of renegade Americans headed North we might be able to do something about.
Weaponize the geese
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I meant in the context of self defense because it cannot rely on the US, not that the US would attempt some kind of attack on Canada.
That makes sense
I don’t think the context is so much military related but rather diplomatic and economic.
Does the last sentence really come as an obvious conclusion from the first two?
I believe the opportunity cost of increasing military production does not seem to be worth it, so it follows to me.
Theres other considerations beyond state to state war with the US.
I’m not Canadian and don’t actually have an opinion, but here’s other reasons they might increase their defense budget because of US destabilization. Decreased global stability due to loss of neighboring super power. Non state actors like terrorists or refugees leaving the US.
I don’t think that Canada will be fighting the New Confederacy or the New England Union of Democratic Socialists in 2028, but there are still reasons that a diminished US would mean Canada should spend new money on defense.
Military spending on what though? The CAF is woefully dependent on the US for basically everything. Hell they probably could turn off those F-35s by pressing a button.
I meant in the context of general self-reliance because Canada may not be able to rely on the US.
That’s a fair point, but does Canada have a geopolitical enemy? I genuinely don’t know enough about Canadian politics, and this is a real question.
I mean, Canada might get there first, right? I feel like we both are not doing so hot.
Yeah the US actually currently has a better quality of life than Canada. Those migrating here should be careful what they wish for. Life in Canada is really hard
I can’t find a single source that ranks the US above Canada on quality of life. You got any kind of source for that that isn’t anecdotal?
Citation needed
They’re probably thinking about housing prices, which are worse in Canada compared to income.
Pretty sure he straight up pulled that one out of his ass
Canada is basically always mentioned as a place to live with a high quality of life, even with all that’s wrong here I’d sure asf rather live here instead of say South Sudan
If the country famous for shooting kids twice a day has a better QOL, things sound pretty rough.
I like traveling and I was like oh Canada has so much open land, maybe I should look into traveling and the housing there, and I was completely blown away by the unbelievable cost and just practical shortage. Truly the best of luck to you guys.
Are there any housing policies coming out anytime soon that might address those problems?
I’m just going to keep traveling.
University of Ottawa national-security professor Thomas Juneau said many Canadians might find it far-fetched to talk about Washington falling drastically out of step with Canada.
Let’s also pay some attention to the fact that Canada may be about to fall drastically in step with the US Republicans at the next election.
Even if the PCs get elected, they’re basically democrats if you look at the policy positions and set aside the stupid culture wedges they like to grab onto
The democrats are pretty fucking bad though. Nothing like the Republicans domestically but in foreign policy, which is more relevant to us foreigners, they might be even bigger warmongers.
Why wouldn’t Canada and the rest of the world fall in step? The same environmental and economic pressures exist everywhere. Again, not as bad as in the US, but it’s going to get worse everywhere.
