Nintendo has been actively taking down YouTube videos that feature its games being emulated or modded, which has sparked significant discussion and concern within the gaming community.

  • Lvxferre@mander.xyz
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    2 months ago

    “So, those guys generate positive advertisement for our games. How do we stop it, and make sure that public opinion shifts to «Nintendo is cringe and you’re a loser if you play this shit»?”

    Also, what the fuck is with Japanese law, criminalising modding?

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      Also, what the fuck is with Japanese law, criminalising modding?

      My best guess would be that they’re trying to get ahead of the recompiler scene before it catches a bigger foothold. But also, that lumps in the entire rom hacking and fan translation community, which I’m sure they view as perpetuating the piracy of their games.

      • woelkchen@lemmy.world
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        My best guess would be that they’re trying to get ahead of the recompiler scene before it catches a bigger foothold.

        If AI-generating images from copyrighted training material is legal, then generating source code from copyrighted binary code is as well.

      • Prunebutt@slrpnk.net
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        2 months ago

        It’s probably not about that but rather to destroy the secondary market of modchips and save-file editors in Japan.

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        I don’t care what bullshit justification they try to come up with for it; the bottom line is that it violates computer owners’ property rights.

        It is absolutely unconscionable, ass-backwards, Bizarro-world bullshit to privilege temporary fake Imaginary Property (IP) over and above actual property!

      • AndrewZabar@lemmy.world
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        Nonetheless, the best thing would be to let those kinds of fans do what they do, because it is free advertising. But no, they’d rather be right than pragmatic, so they shoot themselves in the foot. Meanwhile, if they’re so worried that these guys have that kind of serious reach and influence - aren’t those the people they shouldn’t piss on??

    • tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip
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      2 months ago

      Typical Japanese bullshittery. I watch sumo, and even when there was no official way to watch outside Japan the sumo association would get youtube accounts showing matches taken down. Tons of industries are still run by technological dinosaurs.

      • Varyag@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        Japan was already living in the 2000’s back in the 80’s. The problem is that 40 years later, they’re still living and thinking in the exact same way.

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          “Japan has had the best 2000s tech since the 80s” I think is the succinct phrase you were looking for

          • Varyag@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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            It’s not just about the tech, it’s about their mindset. They’re stuck in that era mentally.

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      I mean, if the decision were made today, I guarantee our current supreme court in the US would not have given us fair use.

      • mPony@lemmy.world
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        the current U.S. Supreme Court wouldn’t give you democracy, even though the American military has killed tens of thousands of people around the world in its name.

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      2 months ago

      I would assume a company such as sony or nintendo lobbied for that law.

    • x4740N@lemm.ee
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      You sure is Nintendo of Japan and not Nintendo of america that’s doing it because the american office would use american jurisdiction

      Also, what the fuck is with Japanese law, criminalising modding?

      You state that this is Japanese law but what is clearly happeing here is nintendo abusing laws, please correct that statement of yours because your unfairly criticising the Japanese government for the actions of nintendo

      • Lvxferre@mander.xyz
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        It is the result of Japanese law. Further info here (in English) and here (in Japanese).

        As such, yes, the Japanese government is also to blame. Plus any other government playing along with this crap, be it from USA or Brazil or whatever.

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      The Switch was my last console purchase; I’m never buying another console from anyone ever again. I haven’t touched it in years cause every time I new game comes out that I want to play, I just pirate it instead. Why bother playing new releases on an underpowered, outdated handheld that struggles to render in 1080p, when I can play them in 4K on my PC at 60-120 FPS instead? Seriously, fuck Nintendo. Between their crappy hardware and crusade against gamers, I have zero reason to give them another cent of my hard-earned cash.

      • lunarul@lemmy.world
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        I grew up as a PC gamer (if you can call 8-bit computers PCs too) and never had a console as a kid. I got an Xbox One when it came out, just because of the Kinect, and never played anything on it other than Just Dance. Playing on my PC is more convenient. I got a Switch and played some Pokémon, but couldn’t get in the habit of playing on a device instead of a PC. When I got a Switch emulator on my PC, I played more on that than I did on the actual Switch in all the time I owned it.

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        2 months ago

        The Steam Deck seems like a decent console, if that counts, because you’re free to do what you want with it

        But perhaps you consider that to just be a handheld PC instead of a console, which I suppose is true

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        I remember back when I was a teen, emulating GBA games on our family laptop because I had no money. I did not buy one single Nintendo games (for myself), but played 90% of the Zelda series. Great games, annoying ass company.

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        Did you buy Nintendo console for performance or were you just surprised because it was your first one and you didn’t check what you were buying?

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          Of course not; don’t be silly. There were no emulators available when I bought one. Plus it was more of a present for the GF anyway, and she still uses it as a Ring Fit machine.

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      Keep buying Nintendo products so that we have systems with good games. They’re stuck in the last century but that’s for better AND worse.

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      I would never buy another Nintendo product after I bought the switch, played it for 2 months and never picked it up again.

      Wife uses it, has a bunch of digital games installed, daughter wanted to use it, create an account on same device and she has to buy them again. Another reason to buy physical but other consoles let you play games on different accounts, it’s just Nintendo being c***s

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        Eh… They do have family sharing over multiple consoles and if it’s just a different user on the same console then they can play all the same games as you either choose the user before starting the game or your have multiple saves in the game itself…

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          There are so many things to hate Nintendo for. Someone tell homie he doesn’t have to lie to kick it

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            Never attribute to malice what can better be attributed to only using it for a couple months and not looking into family sharing yet

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              All you have to do is click the game and click your profile. If they had even attempted they would know this

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                And in your estimation they probably did click the game and click their profile and they came to Lemmy to try to make a Nintendo look worse?

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        No, user accounts on the same console have access to any physical or digital games on that console, just like with PS5 and XBox. Nintendo sucks and all, but not THAT bad…yet.

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        That’s definitely not true, I have at least two digital games that we share on multiple accounts.

      • BlueSquid0741@lemmy.sdf.org
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        That’s definitely not the way it works.

        My partner has a switch. We both created as account on it. She buys digital games on it and everything that’s installed appears in the games list.

        Anyone that picks it up can see that game list. If I’m playing then I pick a game from the list and it asks which account is playing and I can choose mine or hers. Then the game starts.

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    2 months ago

    With all these news recently, you could think Nintendo wants to be hated. It’s truly shameful how the company has fallen since Iwata is gone.

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      On the plus side, it makes me feel extra good when I load their games onto my hacked Switch! Echoes of Wisdom was fun, but felt really short. I would have felt cheated if I’d spent $60 on it.

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        I mean, its predecessor was a basic-ass remake of a ten hour, thirty year old Game Boy game that also cost $60.

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            I don’t mind the art style, other than the ugly-ass blur filter applied to the bottom of the screen. Fortunately, you can remove it if you’re playing it emulated or on a hacked Switch.

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      Nintendo has gone after youtubers and content creators for 15+ years. They are infamous for it.

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      to be honest, 80% of their customers probably don’t even know what an emulator is and don’t follow news about nintendo

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      They still did this stuff under Iwata. It’s actually more of a Japanese thing than a Nintendo thing. Although the quality of stuff was better under Iwata

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      All they have is their IP, they must protect it at all costs. Nintendo doesn’t even let Shingeru Myamoto wipe is own ass out of fear he will get hurt.

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      We won’t have much choices left it seems

      Sony: Greedy fucks who don’t know their customers anymore Microsoft: Kills off great studios then complains they have no games

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          And what do you play them on? Sony PlayStation, Nintendo Switch, or Microsoft Windows? Maybe you play the Microsoft Windows version on Linux or macOS?

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            Playing the windows version on Linux doesn’t really support Microsoft. It’s not like on the consoles where they get a cut of the sales. Even playing directly on windows isn’t that terrible. I don’t remember the last time I purchased a copy of windows. I’ve been using the same key for like 15 years now

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                  Oh no, I’m not saying it benefits them. It just means we depend on them.

                  Also means Steam, GOG, Itch etc. will see a high percentage of Windows games sold and played. It’s either that, or one of the consoles. Linux or macOS ports are incredibly rare.

                  Well, or play a mobile game.

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            You can play any games you want, though? Throw an emulator on there and play all your old games. Install non-steam games, add them to Steam using its very easy to use “Add a non-Steam game” button, and play as normal.

            Heck, if you don’t like Linux you can just install Windows on the thing.

            Steam takes a lot of money and then turns around and invests it into the gaming community.

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              They also use that money to pay their employees more than the industry average and to make their owner a billionaire that owns a yacht collection. They could 100% afford to take a smaller cut with only Gabe “feeling the impact”.