This poetgirl on Instagram says some off the wall shit.

Some of these old bitches have totally lost their mind and just spread misinformation.

This is more than mildly infuriating for me but I wasn’t quite sure where else to post this lol.

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        If the ones that aren’t like that gave a fuck they would do literally anything to stop the ones that are. But because that would hurt their precious religion they just ignore it instead.

        As far as I’m concerned they are all dog shit people. Willingly turning a blind eye to hate from your own is no better than spewing it yourself.

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          Yeah, we often see the entire non-terrorist Muslim population being held responsible for not doing enough to condemn terrorism, but Christians are let off the hook for the atrocities of their fundamentalists.

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          I assure you the ones that arent like that do give a fuck and do what they can with what ability they can when able. A lot of them go non denominational and some are fighting other battles elsewhere.

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          If you want to change their minds, you have to do it with promises & lies.

          In the meantime, the pope will continue to shit in the woods.

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          Dietrich Bonhoeffer was murdered by the SS because he didn’t stand idle as his country went full Nazi. He helped with multiple plots to assassinate Hitler, smuggled vulnerable people out of Germany and founded a church that rejected nazification that was later deemed illegal by the Nazis. The guy was a pastor. Do you honestly think he was dogshit for not doing enough?

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            This also exposes another problem with the original assertion: there’s plenty to do if you’re present, like Bonhoeffer was, but what is there to do if someone lives on the other side of the world? Send a harshly-worded tiktok?

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              Across the pond there were families that took in those refugees, invited Dietrich to speak to congregations, and stored his letters he sent from prison. In short, we should echo the voices of dissent and give them material support if possible.

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                Fair, I aspire to be that way. The best I can do right now is to tell people espousing that nonsense over here to cut that shit out

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          Oh, fuck off with that bullshit. I don’t even have a desire to describe why and how exactly this way of thinking is crap

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        The ones that aren’t didn’t do much to stop the ones that are from taking over. You’d think they’d care more about the blasphemous hatred they spew. It makes all Christians look bad.

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          Every 2000 years or so, religion goes to war with itself. Big war.

          In the years between, it’s basically disputes over what to call the omnipotent being or which shoe to worship.

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            There’s not much of anything you can do as an individual other than publicly denounce them. This is something church leaders should have nipped in the bud a long time ago.

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          What does stopping American Christofascists from reconstructing the US government into a baldly authoritarian cesspit look like for normal, moderate Christians? And how does it differ from what theists of other religions and atheists could do to stop the same thing (reconstruction of the US government)?

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            It’s decades too late at this point, but not accepting the far-right fundamentalists who were spewing clearly non-Christ-like rhetoric as fellow Christians would have been a good start. This applies more to church leadership than lay people, although a general sense of not accepting them from everyone would have still helped. They were happy to consider them when counting how many people in the US were Christian. Unlike non-theists and theist non-Christians alike, all Christians gain a lot by being the de facto state religion despite it supposedly being illegal.

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        Not all that segregate are doomed to hate. Just most.

        Thanks for not telling us “we are going to hell”, we’re already here.

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    Wrong… A simple google search shows that Muslims did indeed fight in the US revolutionary war along side other colonists

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        They’re part of the Old Testament, which pulls from Jewish scripture, but it’s all Abrahamic to me. They should post the Beatitudes if they really want to keep things Christian-specific, but they won’t. Why? Just read them (and the corresponding Woes in Luke) and you’ll see. The Wikipedia article should be enough: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beatitudes

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          Mmm problem with the beatitudes is they’re kinda pretty open to interpretation. What do you consider merciful or righteous? Sure its narrowed down pretty well if you follow all of his teachings… but that’s asking a lot of modern American Christians.

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      Cool, and dickish on rightwingers part. But t also I didn’t realize they were even a minority population then past like- random individuals and families

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    Christians fought for the land? You are talking about the genocide of native Americans? The same ones that owned slaves?.. Yeah ok, I understand why YOU like them so much now…

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      About 20-30% of the people enslaved and deported to the US were Muslims.

      The “Christians” brought Islam to North America by force.

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      That is why they are trying to ban the facts you just shared.

      Nothing but pro-White Nationalism propaganda allowed

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    “Christians” also stole this land and genocided people who had lived here since long before they came. Those who don’t like this should return to where their forefathers came from, no?

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    Whatever, the whole point is the religion shouldn’t be in schools in the first place. Get it out.

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    I’m pretty sure there have been plenty of Jews, Muslims, Atheists, and others that have bled for the US too.

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      It is pointless to engage with that point of their argument, because the underlying premise that the 10 commandments are hung in the classroom on account of Christians dying for the US is even more wrong.

      So by entering the discussion about whether Muslims have fought and died for the US, they will imply that you have accepted their underlying premise. There is no good faith arguing with fascists.

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    “Nyeah nyeah, my god is better than yours” - some cunt failing to realize they worship the same god

  • https://www.loc.gov/loc/lcib/0205/tolerance.html

    The Founders of this nation explicitly included Islam in their vision of the future of the republic. Freedom of religion, as they conceived it, encompassed it. Adherents of the faith were, with some exceptions, regarded as men and women who would make law-abiding, productive citizens. Far from fearing Islam, the Founders would have incorporated it into the fabric of American life.

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    “If God truly does exist, he more so loves the atheist who questions the world around him than the Christian who blindly follows.”

    Thomas Jefferson

    50% of the Founding Fathers were agnostic or atheist. My question is: why does she hate America?

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      Even if it wasn’t for all the other instances already mentioned, there were quite a few muslim combat interpreters that fought with the US troops in Afghanistan etc. only to be left behind and they sure as fuck got killed.

      …them and their families.