I’d like to add, when Stalin was around the Ukraine didn’t have a Nazi problem because he put them through a fuckin blender
Drove a lot of them to KKKlanada
And the US. The OUN-B and some related organizations were nurtured throughout the Cold War as NATO assets, ultimately leading to this outcome.
So you want to imprison all murderers? Like the Nazis did with the jews? Ok, fascist
Oh, you think Nazis are bad? Replace Nazi with “Jews and black people” suddenly you seem problematic, bucko
Killing the mass murderers is equally as bad as mass murder.
Okay guys, I know this might be a little bit of what the kids call a “hot take”, but killing Nazis is actually cool, as well as good.
It is also “based” to kill slave owners, too.
“Violence against Nazism is as bad as Nazism”
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least stupid liberal
Death to America
Do liberals ever clutch pearls when libertarian types talk about throwing communists out of helicopters? Or similar stuff?
They’re too busy clutching pearls because we dare defend the right to bear arms. At this point, it really can’t be good for the pearls.
Killing nazis isn’t genocide because “nazi” is neither an ethnicity nor a culture.
I hate the whole “Oh if you do that you’ll be just like them” thing. If that’s the case then I think I can I can live with it quite comfortably actually
If I were just like them then I expect to be celebrated by society and the people in power to coddle me and tell me how smart and wonderful I am before getting a standing ovation by the Canadian government
I’d expect a job at NASA 📎
I regret to inform you that the word genocide has lost all meaning
There is a Nazi gene apparently
It’s the hitler particles
Can you explain the hitler particles joke?
It’s kind of a meme, but actually from paper by Trotsky
Not every exasperated petty bourgeois could have become Hitler, but a particle of Hitler is lodged in every exasperated petty bourgeois.
No, you see, Hitler particles are sort of like Midichlorians. The genes of the Westoid simply channel Hitler particles in more efficient manner
Ah yes, the Nazi race. It’s telling that this poster is equating white people with Nazis?
Hey, Lemmy users.
We advocate for the violent death of Nazis here.
Looking for something else?
Then leave.
no more half measures walter
Good Nazi = Dead One
One side wants to perpetuate an eternal war of annihilation.
Another side wants to kill off these fuckers in an act of self-defense
I literally can’t tell the difference!!
It really is incredible. I don’t hate nazis because of idle reasons. They did everything in their power to earn it.
one makes a conscious decision to become a nazi
one is born as a minority and does not have any choice in the matter
these are literally the exact same thing
the only way this is gonna end is when they declare nazi an ethnicity
i guess there’ll be some honesty in that at least…
the joke about stalin ending ukrainian cultural traditions of pogroms but unironically
Help! I’m a descendant of the Kapytyyalizt peoples of the Caucauses and Stalin is genociding my people!
Hey America, why is killing Islamic terrorists ok, but killing fascists is bad?
Obviously
but I’d love one to say something like “well, these speak English so we can reason with them.” and then bring up that guy who grifts about deradicalizing klan members.America delenda est.
that guy who grifts about deradicalizing klan members.
Is that just a grift? Can you explain? Id like to believe myself a rehabilitationist so I want to believe radical right wingers can be rehabilitated in ways that arent a bullet to a skull, but if one of the only evidence that deradicalization is possible isnt real… I never researched the topic much though so can you or someone explain?
I don’t know if it is truly a grift, i.e. that he is doing it for money, but I do know that libs have used him to say: look, we don’t need to hate racists, sexists, homophobes, transphobes, etc. the people that they hate just need to sit down with them and have a conversation and they will magically change. I also remember a person saying that one of his supposed converts was now just affiliated with a different hate group than the Klan, but I can’t seem to find that source.
Even if Daryl Davis is legitimate, he has certainly only deradicalized people who were there for the community vs. those who actually have deeply held beliefs that black people are deserving of persecution. Otherwise, there wouldn’t be parents who disown their own kids for being gay/trans.
The idea that even the avowed true believer fascists are not redeemable by any means kinda goes against my worldview. Like obviously some are but like, I know ex fascists. Tbf most of them were fascists as kids and grew out of it. And also there was one who was an “ex-fascist” for a long time and had become communist, and then after some pushback against leftover fashy behavior she ended up going back to fascism so that was faith shaking but like.
I’ve effortposted about how i feel about mass executing Nazis before. Individual violence against nazis who are openly being nazis in the street is another story to me obviously. But I still find it hard to believe that bigotry cant be rehabilitated.
I think I am essentially utilitarian about this. I don’t think it is, in general, worth an individual’s resources (time, effort, chance of being harmed) to try and rehabilitate a random adherent to hateful ideologies. People less beholden to evil are more attractive targets, and a bullet to a fascist head is a lot quicker.
Likewise though, I don’t think it is worth a society’s resources to mass execute a large subsection of their population, and so rehabilitation schemes are preferable.
To be honest though, I think most people only fall to fascist beliefs because of the appearance of an open community and the sublimation of their feelings of failure into hatred for some other group. If we ever succeed at crafting a more pro-social society where all have a place and there is a real sense of community, I think the majority of the current fash sympathizers would deradicalize themselves.
Also, on a personal note, I too lost a friend to fascism. He had reactionary views when I first met him, but also seemed to be a deep thinker that wanted a better world. Over time, I thought I had softened many of those views, and had even gotten him to accept the necessity of a universal, not-for-profit healthcare system. However, I could never find the ground to get him to deal with the (honestly pathetic) trauma of having been (supposedly) cheated on by his high school girl friend.
Dude just kept dating girls currently in, or fresh out of, high school. The relationships obviously never worked. Then he started dating a church girl (who was 17 while he was ~30) and they got married when she was like 19. He started telling me of the new found importance of god in his life, how our world was removed (this was before trump so that word held much less YIKES), how porn kept us lonely, the need for nuclear families, etc. I pushed back lightly, but he seemed happy for really the first time.
Then, predictably, they got a divorce as you don’t marry a child and think it’ll work out. His response: go full hate women MGTOW and fast track the alt-right pipeline to fascism. The last time we talked he was telling me about how helpful he’d found this new guy, Jordan Peterson. I cut ties after he said America’s downfall began with women getting the right to vote.
I once considered him like a brother. I now sometimes have nightmares about him killing me or his ex-wife.
Edit: Oh, I had a friend that dated him for a while. She confided in me when we reconnected years later that he had stalked her for years and she had gotten a restraining order and a gun because she was so scared of him. I’d already cut contact at this point, but I also never saw this side of him. We were definitely at our closest while he was also stalking her.
