• LordGimp@lemm.ee
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    I always like the analogy of man’s relationship with an ant is how it would be with a fae or elder species and man.

    Like if an ant managed to attract the attention of a human and requested it kill a specific ant, the human would respond by simply killing the entire colony as they can’t distinguish one individual ant from another.

    That’s what the fae do.

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      I don’t know what it is about a certain kind of nerd and everything “fae” recently, but I feel like too many things are being associated with faeries, and put under an umbrella term named after them.

      And their power level is rocketing up to Galactus levels.

      It’s like the words magic, myth, fantastical and supernatural have been replaced by fae to make it all fairy-esque with pretty and/or grotesque twigpeople as mascots. Sometimes it seems Godzilla is a fae, Thor is a fae, Bigfoot is a fae, Kraken is a fae, C’thulu is a fae, Jehovah is a fae, Dragons are fae.

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        At the same time, old folk tales portray these creatures as wild and powerful. Generally not malevolent (certainly not godly), but not something you should mess with.

        But I agree it’s the new spooky supernatural go-to. Goblincore is the new zeitgeist and I’m here for it!

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          Goblins ain’t got shit on Nuckelavee. Or redcap for that matter. Little bastards murder lone travelers and dye their eponymous hats in the blood of their victims.

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            Sure, but for every story about a selkie that wants to drag you underwater and drown you, there are several more about gnomes that want to hide your shoes or fairy people that would trap you in a 100-year party.

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        “Elves are wonderful. They provoke wonder.

        Elves are marvellous. They cause marvels.

        Elves are fantastic. They create fantasies.

        Elves are glamorous. They project glamour.

        Elves are enchanting. They weave enchantment.

        Elves are terrific. They beget terror.

        The thing about words is that meanings can twist just like a snake, and if you want to find snakes look for them behind words that have changed their meaning.

        No one ever said elves are nice.

        Elves are bad.”

        I wouldn’t call Sir Terry Pratchett all that new, and his interpretation of elves and the fay in general comes from myths and legends that predate Tolkien as well as Tolkien himself.

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          Pratchett isn’t new, but the popularity of that quote is.

          The new wave of fae is very much disconnected from old myths.

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            Ummm… We traded that quote on the internet back when I was in highschool. For reference that was 1993-1996. I finished the required credits in 3 years. I’m pretty sure that the fact that a few hundred of us pulled that off in Indiana caused the state to revamp their required courses after we all graduated a year early.

            I’m pretty certain this is just a result of you personally not having run into it until recently. There’s nothing new about elven superiority. Hell, WH40K made the Space Elves so damn horny and technologically and psychically advanced that they literally broke the universe, and that shit is also from the 1970s.

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              There’s a recent increase I’m pretty sure would be quite substantial if you could get the data. Anecdotally, I’ve seen it several times in recent months.

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        Hasn’t been anything “recent” for me. Check out the Dresden Files by Jim Butcher. My favorite depiction of “fae” in a modern setting. Yeah, you still have dew drop fairies and gnomes and shit but you also have giant fuckass murder ogres and insane kelpies and war unicorns.

        The second Hellboy movie also did a great job bringing that sort of grimdark feel to the fae lore imo.

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            Bro the last 2 “books” are so unbearably horny I barely finished them. I couldn’t finish the newest Cinder Spires book he put out for exactly the same reason. Jim was on such a good run doing awesome shit between Changes and Skin Game, but I guess losing his dog and then his marriage really pushed him into a return to horny.

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        *Godzilla stomps through downtown Tokyo causing wanton destruction*
        “Pfft, typical fairy.”

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        Basic alt girls with floral/bird tattoos who think making soup was alien enough to be considered magicks love BG3 and DnD. Now their orbiting nerds have accepted their new definition to not be cast out.

        It’s another personality substitute after the tattoos, hair dye, and Lovecraft obsessions stopped feeling edgy.

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    this is why cats are untrustworthy.

    why do you approach me? i have nothing to offer you. oh, friendly are you—purring amd rubbing against me? what tricks do you play?
    you’ll not fool me, feline. 🧐

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      If the cat thought you had nothing to offer, they wouldn’t be coming to you. I’m pretty sure most house cats have been trained to think humans are magic food dispensers.

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      It’s actually really fascinating - cats seem to rapidly learn culture while they’re weaning

      Cats in Japan are very friendly and trusting of humans, cats in America are more cautious and wary

      Japan has folklore about multiple variations of cat yokai that range from fickle trickers to malevolent supernatural ones. Cats are considered good luck, killing them invites bad luck. They have euphemisms like being in no position to refuse even a cats help, and their presence being a good omen

      America has folklore about cats being bad luck, and tied to witchery. We still use euphemisms about skinning cats, letting them out of bags, swinging them, etc. Killing cats wasn’t abnormal behavior even a century ago

      And apparently, if you bring a female Japanese cat to America, it’ll take several generations for the descendents to localize to the culture. They even meow differently

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    Worf, from the Deep Space Nine episode Homefront:

    “Our gods are dead. Ancient Klingon warriors slew them a millennia ago. They were more trouble than they were worth.”

    That’s the best way to describe what a Klingon is; Zero fucks, 100% of the time.

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    Oh that was me in reverse. Waking up to a pack of coyotes wondering if I was the tame human. Alas I sat up too quickly, scared them off, and now I’ll never get adopted by a pack of coyotes.

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          We recently discovered that Hyenas were one of our primary predators well before we figured out tools and fire. There are archaeological sites that have thousands of human skeletons that were clearly eaten by hyenas. Mostly children, IIRC.

          I would surmise that some of us have completely overwritten our basic instincts. Hyenas would also be friend shaped, but somehow I’m reasonably certain that your and my ancestors would disagree.

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            I dunno. I’ve seen hyenas in the zoo and I did not get the same feeling towards them. Lions are also rather intimidating once it’s just a bit of wire and a slightly too far jump between you. Wolves and coyotes though, they make me want to do the whole domestication thing all over again.

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    I’ve thought about things like this. What if humans could be kept by aliens as pets? What would that be like? Can any extremely bored writer reading this come up with something?

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        This is a bigger problem. I do enjoy the natural lessons Yellowstone gives to so many visitors though. Those vids are usually amusing to a degree. I’m a sucker for schedenfraud.