A vote for Genocide Joe is a vote for Genocide

updated link as the lemmitors removed it for being “political” and then reposted it to politicalmemes

  • happybadger [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    Blue Anon is so bloody insufferable. At least Qanon has a fun Scooby Doo mystery for the hogs to follow. Liberals just want to cry and fucking cry.

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    They’re real people who were infiltrated by trollfarms when they were still on Reddit and lured into a more controlled environment.

    Ahh yes, lemmy, the more controlled environment than reddit-logo lmao

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      I didn’t get that comment at all, it’s like they just threw that out there in a misguided attempt to gain credibility, because everything else they said in that thread was like they were fighting our corner.

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        Pretty sure it’s an impression they picked up from our interactions with the fediverse rather than actual hexbear posts - they see the united front we put out when bodying liberals and believe that is our only face, one of complete agreement. They have no idea about the disagreements we have among ourselves, because they never visit the posts that happens on.

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    I hate how they completely ignore how there’s ongoing oppression against queer people and racial minorities right now, under Biden, and he’s doing nothing about it or is actively making it worse. I live in Texas. Completely within Biden’s term my state has outlawed trans healthcare and abortions. They’ve also begun gutting schools in primarily black or Latino districts. Biden’s response has been to bomb Palestinians.

    And yet these liberals tell me Trump is going to do worse to me? Biden’s already allowing the worst of the fascists to do whatever they please. Biden in his second term is gonna overthrow the Texan state and shoot Greg Abbott in the head? And at the same time he’ll bomb Palestinian kids?

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      Biden on immigration. Increase in deportations over Trump. Continued incarceration of children. Increase in arrest over Trump. Building the wall Trump started.

      The guy is worse than Trump on immigration except in the opposite way Republicans say.

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      Yeah but Biden and the democrats respect states rights. Therefore you should vote for Biden unless you like and endorse everything you just said happened in your state.

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      And yet these liberals tell me Trump is going to do worse to me? Biden’s already allowing the worst of the fascists to do whatever they please

      It’s things like this that really vindicates the whole scratched liberal thing from last century. At every single opportunity, without fail, liberals betray the working masses to fascists, always “compromising” and giving them carte blanche to do what they want, and when the fascists gain power, they won’t do anything because they don’t like changing the status quo. All because they fear a state controlled by the workers.

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    If you can’t leverage an action to get something, what good is that action? How valuable is it if you gain nothing from withholding it?

    If the president won’t change to get votes, then why bother voting for them at all?

    Why engage with the electoral system if your only viable choice is to vote one party?

    How is this system any good if a single election can destroy democracy forever? And finally, why would anybody say that this is a good system worth defending?

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    Real great stuff in there

    “Hexbear users hate Biden with a passion and push the “both sides” envelope with fervor, so their message aligns with that of MAGA voters who want to dismantle the government. I don’t think Hexbear are really GOP advocates, I personally think they’re a small community that has been prodded along and mentored by Pro-CCP foreign agents, bots, and bad faith actors to create political divide and discord while also increasing support of the CCP and their immediate allies, but that’s all just armchair theorizing at this point.”

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        this is the only refrain they have. All people other than American liberals have been deceived or are purposefully lying about their own ideologies.

        i don’t know how they got this way. Liberals in the 1920s used to very clearly understand they were promoting the interests of the capital class. They disregarded their enemies as rabid unwashed poors and said this without sympathy. I wish they’d be more honest and start disregarding us again instead of infantalizing us

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      so their message aligns with that of MAGA voters who want to dismantle the government.

      Halfway there, libshit dipshit. We’re going to build a Soviet America and throw every pencilnecked wine cave bluemaga “VOTE!” monger into gulags for a minimum of at least 5 years.

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      They’re going to have a meltdown when they realise the China has been growing in popularity among the organised left for years now and it’s slowly but surely been making its way into the wider left.

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      Big “The real racists are the ones who point out racism” energy

      Support for genocide should be a non-partisan issue but the CCP, Russia, and probably Iran (but that’s just armchair theorizing) have turned it into an issue that is dividing this nation 😡😡”

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      prodded along and mentored by Pro-CCP foreign agents, bots, and bad faith actors to create political divide and discord while also increasing support of the CCP and their immediate allies,

      LMAO i fucking wish I had a “mentor”

      Fuck these liberals, they can’t conceive that people have genuine beliefs that aren’t jackbooted liberalism.

      We’re pro-CPC because THEIR GOVERNMENT WORKS. It has been able to uplift it’s people at record pace, and provide a standard of living in their most developed regions that far surpasses even those liberal nations that Western liberals put in high regard.

      • corgiwithalaptop [any, love/loves]@hexbear.netM
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        Libs will prod you to get you to say shit like “both sides are bad” and then try to use the fact that you said that as some sort of own.

        Like…yeah. the average person is clearly struggling under American leadership regardless of what party is in power. Both parties are full of people doing objectively bad things. Not gonna say “one side good” or concede ground to 99% Hitler vs 100% Hitler. Whats the difference on a macro level?

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    Me waiting for someone to point at any time withholding your vote actually brought about measurable change in a positive direction.

    Me waiting for someone to point at any time unconditionally promising to vote Democrat has actually brought about measurable change to the Democratic Party in a positive direction.

    also lmao at them posting this to .world where they know we can’t respond. @[email protected] come here and say that to our faces you fucking coward.

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      Me waiting for someone to point at any time withholding your vote actually brought about measurable change in a positive direction.

      The qualifier at the end there is because there’s lots of proof that moderates/independents threatening to vote for Republicans or not vote has in fact forced measurable change out of Democrats on many occasions.

      I have been thinking about this more and more lately, and I think the push needs to be for people to vote for a third party if they have the option or otherwise leave a candidate blank, not to stay home. If people just stay home, the Democrats can waive them off and keep moving the party to the right. If Genocide Joe loses because a bunch of people voted for a third party candidate to the left of Biden, they can’t ignore that easily.

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        Staying home should not be an option considering the importance of state ballot initiatives, constitutional amendments, school board and city council seats, etc.

        The presidential Ballot is not as important as those local elections.

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        I think that’s a useful talking point to reach some kind of common ground with people who have faith in the capacity of the political system to produce positive outcomes, but I don’t. Voting will not save us. Not voting will not save us. The Democratic Party is the left wing of capital. As a structure it is not responsive to any democratic process. It’s possible that they lose in November. If the Greens or the PSL get 10% or 20% of the vote, they will not see that and think we need to seriously rethink our strategy, only those prole traitors fucked us. maybe we can send some of them to the camps to peel off more votes in the red state suburbs. Look at the UK. the liberal party has been consistently eating shit for over a decade, and it’s only made them more contemptuous and hostile to social progress.

        the only road forward runs through the rubble of their system. we will never win a thing by begging or yelling or holding our breath. we need to learn how to fight again.

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        The qualifier at the end there is because there’s lots of proof that moderates/independents threatening to vote for Republicans or not vote has in fact forced measurable change out of Democrats on many occasions.

        Why would you assume this and not the simpler explanation this was always the preferred course of action by the overwhelming ruling class and this perceived threat or the electoral game is itself just an excuse.

        Another popular theory is the democrats have always been controlled opposition, people repeat this often, they’re not meant to do or believe any leftist position.

        “The democrats are moving right” is a popular narrative but were they ever to the “left” to the begin with? For example you can say yes you can also give a counter example of them doing outright right wing policies.

        No matter how we decide, even if we take the dems as actual “left” on the American political discourse, I’m still not realy convinced they’re moving right because of these right wing voters.

        On the contrary I think the Democrats realized that Blue MAGA is real, their voters are just as unprincipled as they are, they only care about winning therefore they don’t even have to pander to leftist positions anymore therefore giving the imagine they’re moving right, no perhaps they just stopped pretending to be leftists at all.

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    Who is it historically who have been the more likely to cave to fascism? What ideology did Carl Schmitt write about as being a trojan horse into fascism? No, it’s actually the people who don’t wanna vote for genocide who are the people enableing fascism not the people who do. Man these liberals are fucking stupid.