Woke means you hate all white people and think they’re all from England and had slaves.
It means you’re too stupid to realize people like me, have ancestors that were under foreign occupation from 1500-1913 and had absolutely nothing to do with colonization and didn’t benefit from oppressing non-Europeans in any way sort or form but think we deserve punishment.
You aren’t a decent human being if you’re woke.
I’m a Yugoslav ethnically. Yugo means south, slav being the root word for the word slave because we were taken as slaves by the Arabs and Ottoman Turks.
We also suffered a similar fate that natives in Canada did, the Ottomans took the first born son of every Christian family and sent them to be part of the Ottoman army and forcefully converted us to islam.
Took out daughters as sex slaves in harems.
Taxed us stealing our labour and wealth for 500+ years.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saqaliba
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jizya
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devshirme
Then we were booted out of Greece to make room for Turkish-Greeks and had our land stolen in the 1940s, happened to my Grandparents.
https://press.uchicago.edu/ucp/books/book/chicago/C/bo12274715.html
We were under the same empire that the Palestinians were under, and what happened to them happened to us, but woke people want me to suffer because I have white skin.
Woke people are evil scum. They aren’t decent people in any shape or form, they are basically nazis spreading lies about me just like the Germans did about the Jews.
I know this because woke people like to throw slavery and other things in my face just because I am European without realizing the word SLAVE is derived from my ethnicity.
Hitler hated us just as much as he hated the Jews and we were part of the holocaust, but woke people don’t care,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Slavic_sentiment
I’m white, I’m European, I must be a colonizer worthy of punishment for the actions of some people in England who speak a different language, use a different alphabet, practice a different religion and lived 2000 km away.
That’s what woke people are. They’re fucked in the head.
My country is currently teaching our children to hate me based on my skin colour and they think I deserve it. Again, just like the Nazis did to the Jews.
https://x.com/ChanLPfa/status/1772050309885431824?s=20
https://x.com/ChanLPfa/status/1770981743450816763?s=20
I assume you are Indian, imagine you were randomly getting blamed for shit Pakistani people did 300 years ago and your country was teaching kids that you are a bastard for what Afghani people did just cause you have similar skin colour.
That’s wokeness. It’s a disease.
None of my ancestors subjugated other people groups to any form of discrimination and didn’t colonize anywhere else. But woke people think they did. I’ve interacted with enough of them that hate me just for being European, most of them are British themselves which is insane.
It is 100% the same thing that the Nazis did to the Jews and the Slavs, spread lies and propaganda about them. Woke people would have fit in Nazi Germany.
I’ve yet to meet a woke person who will acknowledge Muslim occupation and oppression against south eastern Europeans.
My last name isn’t a Persian word because I’m Persian. It was assigned to my family by foreign occupiers.
We don’t eat middle eastern influenced food because we are middle eastern, it is a result of foreign occupation and subjugation.
Our music isn’t middle eastern influenced because we are middle eastern, it is a result of foreign occupation and subjugation.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQTZQxmZF20 <– We don’t make this randomly. It’s a direct result of our history.
Macedonian wedding song played at every wedding is called Mashallah. Christian people there aren’t singing for random, it’s a result of colonization by the middle east
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbxmwrUpvj4
Woke people refuse to acknowledge any of this.
I’m white, I’m from London, England to them, I must be punished and shamed for my ancestry to all woke people.
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OK now tell me how the inclusion of black or LGBTQ characters in video games supports the ottoman oppression of the Balkans?
LOL
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Do you even live in the West to have a practical understanding of wokeness and how it plays out in real life? Or is your understanding of it totally technical, based on what you’ve read about it on Twitter while residing in India?
My understanding of wokeness is highly technical. I was published in the peer reviewed journal of woke studies
Dude writes up a wall of text about the history of the Balkans to explain “wokeness” in the West, then accuses others of not having an idea of “wokeness” grounded in real life. The absolutely nuclear levels of
.I started going to anti-woke meetups instead of woke meetups because all they do is defend the Ottoman Empire.
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Wall of text post utterly demolished by a single sentence.
“Woke means you hate all white people”
Why, yes, and?
Being woke literally makes you Hitler
lol tat guy would have been a founding member of the Ustasha if he had been alive back then, who is he kidding?
Peak Nazi
behaviourNot too long ago only anglos were considered “white” in Canada. The Trudeaus were considered mixed race for being French and English. This guy should be grateful Canada became woke enough to include him.
An average Wednesday on Reddit.
OK now tell me how the inclusion of black or LGBTQ characters in video games supports the ottoman oppression of the Balkans?
Lol got em
Literally the coconut tree line
None of this shit matters outside the context of existing structures of oppression
It’s not even that they have dog brains it’s that they argue in bad faith. The real reason they’re against racial justice is that it opposes their material interests
the woke social sciences would defend the Ottomans in this case, because all these allegations are made the fuck up.
and this shitthead is hiding behind events 200 years+ ago on a different continent from his actual material circumstances. a whitey in Kkklanada benefiting from the white supremacist regime there. We have no trouble saying a macedonian in 1600 wasn’t particularly privileged in their context, even modern macedonia is a peripheral and exploited place to western europe. but motherfucker ain’t there. in Canada they don’t sort whites, you are from London, and if that upsets you, maybe consider that white supremacy is the thing flattening your identity, not people fighting it
The ottomans were actually pretty bad especially in the latter half of their existence
this read is nationalist black legends, Devshirme wasn’t a biblical ‘every first born son’ culling, it was a few thousand out of millions, the government didn’t want to pay for that many servants. slavs–slaves is false etymology and the christians inside the empire, like macedonians, weren’t getting systemically enslaved. jizya is such a bugbear for christofascists playing victim oh the humanity an extra tax (which exempts you from military obligations, something that is famously inexpensive) the real way Ottomans made christians second-class was through sumptuary law & employment restrictions, but you’ll never catch an islamophobe whining about the Sultan not letting his ancestors dress like muslims or serve in a state ministry
it’s not that the Ottomans were good or anything, but they weren’t uniquely bad as euro myth-making would have it. everything they did a contemporary euro country was doing
it’s not that the Ottomans were good or anything, but they weren’t uniquely bad as euro myth-making would have it.
I dunno, they named their empire after a piece of furniture. Pretty cringe tbh
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Do you even live in the West to have a practical understanding of wokeness and how it plays out in real life? Or is your understanding of it totally technical, based on what you’ve read about it on Twitter while residing in India?
I’m Indian, but I was born in the US, raised in Hong Kong, went to university in the UK, and spent some time in Canada too. I currently live in the UK. Your assertion that wokeness has anything to do with being a decent human being is very misguided. If racism is present, it’s present in all areas of society and in all people. I’ve known some of the wokest people out there. They were as racist, if not more so, than non-woke people. The only difference was that they were more subtle in their racism.
Being in India and reading stuff on Twitter can make you think that it’s about being decent, but that’s not true. Most of my friends of color say the same. It’s just a well-known fact here. Woke people are more creative in their racism and are some of the rudest people you can find in the UK. Sure, they’ll pretend to support LGBT rights and the rights of black people, but the second they’re alone in a room, they’ll say the most vile and racist things ever. To your face.
So yeah, come here and live here for a bit, and then make that statement. You won’t end up making it. As I live in London, most of my white friends are woke as hell. I love them to bits, but they’re pretty much more obsessed with race and being subtly racist in the guise of wokeness than my white friends from the North of England, which is a very non-woke area of England.
are they just using the word “woke” to describe any random person that’s not loudly US-style right-wing/conservative?
It’s basically a meaningless term so yes
Yeah
See the non-woke people are polite enough not to be racist to my face, therefore they aren’t obsessed with race.
I literally in the same day had two people tell me that because I am white I am a colonizer. Either person could explain in detail to me why. They just got angry and said if I don’t know then it’s not worth explaining or something to that effect.
My main point is that I did not colonize anything, I did not have slaves. So why are you angry with me?
Weird, I look white and no one ever says anything like that to me. What does that say about you?
I’m visibly slavic and people walk up to me all the time and yell in my face Devlet-i Ebed-Müddet and then throw concrete laced baklavas in my face.
this happens to me too and then i fart myself and piss my pants and everyone starts calling me a pissy-farter
I literally in the same day had two people tell me that because I am white I am a colonizer
that’s an actual thing that happened
no context will ever be provided
So you’re white, an American, and do not consider yourself a colonizer. Quick question: How did your family enter the country?
Right, I see what you are saying. But what can I do about it?
Tracing my ancestors back through my dad’s side, they emigrated here from the Middle East.
My mom hardly knows her dad, so I have no clue.
Regardless, I was born after the country was colonized. I had no part in that.
Colonialism is an ongoing process, not something that happened In the Forgotten Past, and you are a beneficiary of it
Ok, then what is a person like me supposed to do?
Literally no one has been able to answer this question for me.
One, get educated. Learn the actual history of this place. Just doing that alone would make it so you wouldn’t even ask these questions.
Two, accept that you are the beneficiary of these systems of oppression, and as such, use your privileged position to help dismantle them. Support policies that benefit the oppressed even if it’s at your expense. Talk to others, educate others. Oh look at that you’re “woke” now
join a political party whose goal is racial justice and decolonization. read literature on these topics.
In addition to the answers below, don’t take it personally. Racism and colonialism are systemic issues. You didn’t have a choice to be born, you don’t control the political economy of your country, you didn’t choose what your forebears did. Don’t view having an accurate understanding of history and political economy as a personal attack.
I was born after the country was colonized.
I was born after my dad stole your house. I just live in it, but I can’t do anything because it wasn’t me who stole the house, it was my dad, which makes it impossible for me to give the house my dad stole (that I’m actively living in) back. What can I do? Leave? I should leave the stolen house and lands my family stole? Are you insane?
Seriously though let’s talk this out.
Who would I give it to? Where would I go?
Like what’s a legit honest way to move forward.
Start by educating yourself. If people are calling you a colonizer to your face I’m pretty suspicious you’re an ignorant asshole dipshit in real life.
You are not expected to give away all your money to bipoc or whatever. You are expected to understand how this society was built, where it currently stands today and where you sit in this society. And then you need to start trying to make a difference.
educate yourself on decolonialism. decolonizing doesn’t mean you have to go somewhere else. it means dismantling the power structures that privilege you over natives and oppress them. it means replacing the colonial government with a unified state that gives natives real power.
I am not angry with you because I am not one of these two people who haunts you. You do seem annoying tho.
The point is that being “woke” does not mean hating white people. It’s just a buzzword term white supremacists use to justify their racism.
I think we might be missing some context here lol
- burgerbrained ameroid
- petite bourgeoisie
- gamer
take your pick
Literally all this nerd talks about is games
Classic colonizer behaviour. Doesn’t even recognize that they are colonizing even when they are told they are colonizing while in the act.
Please enlighten me. Can you tell me how I am colonizing. I legitimately do not understand this topic and no one has even tried to explain it. I just get called a colonizer and a bunch of other names.
I’d just like to have a discussion and learn about this,”.
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Give me $10 in unmarked NZD bills or I’m going to tell you to read Settlers.
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Imagine thinking lemmygrad won’t roast someone for getting personally upset at being called a colonizer.
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A bunch of t-tankies called me a c-c-coloniser and I said what I said is I told my mom
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I get that it’s frustrating when people don’t elaborate on it. It’s one of the reasons smug Tumblr “leftism” that came with no theory was frustrating and alienating. However there is a lot of stuff about colonialism, neo-colonialism, and how it intersects with leftist theory and why it’s important to know it. It’s easy to find material. Also it’s not the end of the world to be called something that research would confirm the best thing to do is accept it and work to make the world better in spite of your station. It starts with theory and moves toward praxis. I understand, especially if you reflexively know colonization is bad, a bad thing. It makes you feel bad. But part of that is a call to action instead of lettingit get under your skin. It’s what you do with the information that is important. “Everybody is a little bit racist” isn’t an excuse to be indifferent it’s a reminder to be vigilant. I know I got some latent sexism from my youth so I just gotta try to stay aware and think before I react, to use a personal example. Does it sting a little when somebody says “all men are…” sure it does. But instead of letting it bother me I stop, consider where the criticism is coming from, and remind myself that the patriarchy is a complex and nefarious reality that is experienced more harshly by people that don’t look like me. It’s not a nuanced statement but there is enough truth to it, and legitimate grievance behind it, that my job is not to pop off with a “not all men” but to be considerate of these factors and use material history and intersectional theory to apply that nuance.
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